"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Too late to approach?

bennymd

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Since there is a 3 second rule, is it too late to approach if you go way past that? What if you were getting IOI's?

Problem is, I'm talking weeks past. I guess I'm still recovering from a break-up (long term relationship), but I want to get back into dating now. I've noticed I've been getting a lot of IOI's from a few cute girls at the gym. I sometimes catch their glances and I notice they'll frequently come near me. One girl always manages to subtly hop on the elliptical next to mine when I start my workout.

It's weird though, I definitely feel this tension but it seems strange to try to bust out with some opener after all this time. It's like if I wanted to approach them, why didn't I do it a month ago and wait all this time? I'm guessing I should just chalk it up to lesson learned, and to try to approach faster in these situations next time. Besides, I feel like there's been so much expectation built up my anxiety would be through the roof.

But I'm interested in hearing if anyone else has been in this situation before and successfully opened anyway? Or if anyone else has some advice? Thx.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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rocky_mtn

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No, the 3 second rule is a technique not to chicken out. I think the 3s rule is misunderstood. Its from the moment you actually decide to make your approach, you have 3 seconds to follow through so that you don't chicken out. It may take minutes or hours to scope out a joint, make your rounds, make eye contact, see who is single and who isn't.

When the moment is ripe to approach then use the 3 second rule, but it can take some time to get setup for the right target.
 

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Thanks, I get that point. I probably shouldn't have even mentioned the whole 3 second thing I was just referring to it. Any advice on the specific situation?
 

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You might want to make sure your balls are still attached. It's never too late. Just dont put it off any longer :up:
 

Krang!

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Blah - the rules are guidelines to get you into the right mindset, the right attitude - not absolute truths. Way more worth than reading the bible over and over again is to go out and gain some experience with your newfound knowledge. A well analyzed C&B is worth gold!

Now on your specific situation, I can't see the problem. Sounds like a great oppurtunity to say "Hi" next time... seeing that you guys have seen each other around alot it would be a natural thing to do eh? Take it from there and remember to have fun! :up:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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