"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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To those guys still self conscious about their looks...

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ChapStick said:
Looks open doors, but it's game that gets you in! I don't disagree with you, but I think looks matters to some extent. A girl won't give you a chance if you're physically ugly to her. Some girls have said I'm downright handsome, and some girls have told me they thought I was ugly.. You can't please everyone..

I don't have as much game as I'd like.. I can easily get numbers and dates with girls, but keeping it going has been a challenge..

Oh well... COngrats to them!
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I think even some of the most downright ugly guys can get girls, they just need game. The girls probably would just try to avoid talking to them at first. I mean, one of the famous wolf brothers is married, and those midgets from Guinness Book of World Records are married too.

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I hear an echo.
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Really now? You have good ears, you'll at least get girls for being a good listener.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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...the most talented, intelligent, funniest, coolest, most alpha, more often than not have got the good looks.
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Not.
 
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Really now? You have good ears, you'll at least get girls for being a good listener.
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You're gay.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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swifTy said:
says the "fertileTurtle"

sorry man, couldn't resist that one.
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I love when we have fun with ourselves.
:rolleyes: :flowers:
 
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Well, as I have posted many times, here are my two cents. I work the front desk of a nice hotel, so I have witnessed hundreds of couples come to the desk to check in or what not. Here is my final vote:

Looks do matter! Don't believe guys who say they don't.

If you want to be with a stunning looking girl, you either have to be model handsome yourself or be slightly above average with cash!!

However, I noticed I have seen quite a few "average at best guys" with 7's and 8's.

I.E. Girl comes in last week with her fiancee to see some rooms. This chick was quite good-looking (5'7", cute face, nice tits). Her fiancee was 5'7", 20 lbs. overweight, had a double chin and was as "average" as you could get. If you saw this guy on the street, you would assume if he had a woman, she would be no higher than a 5 or 6.

Last night, a bride (who just got married) came to the desk to check-in. When I saw her, I was like "Wow, she is quite cute (nice eyes, smile). Her husband was 5'9", slightly overweight, average face with bright red hair and freckles. She was noticeably the better looking of the couple.

Keep in mind, seeing couples like this is NOT RARE!!

THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
 
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Survival value is how well you can survive in the world.
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or how well your life is. ^___^
 
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I.E. Girl comes in last week with her fiancee to see some rooms. This chick was quite good-looking (5'7", cute face, nice tits). Her fiancee was 5'7", 20 lbs. overweight, had a double chin and was as "average" as you could get. If you saw this guy on the street, you would assume if he had a woman, she would be no higher than a 5 or 6.


THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
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Sup, just wondering, this might sound like a stupid question, but on a scale of 1-10 what exactly would classify as average? Would a 5/10 be a plain/average person? I just needed someone to shed light on my ignorance:confused:
 
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THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
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Final verdict: Thread closed.



Do everything you can to improve your looks(posture, clothes, tan, hairstyle, smile, teeth, work out) and forget about all the rest because it doesn't matter. Once you get a real life, where you're doing something that you're very passionate about, then all the rest falls away. Philosophizing about evolutionary theory here is pathetic and pedantic. The end.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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