"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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To those guys still self conscious about their looks...

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ChapStick said:
Looks open doors, but it's game that gets you in! I don't disagree with you, but I think looks matters to some extent. A girl won't give you a chance if you're physically ugly to her. Some girls have said I'm downright handsome, and some girls have told me they thought I was ugly.. You can't please everyone..

I don't have as much game as I'd like.. I can easily get numbers and dates with girls, but keeping it going has been a challenge..

Oh well... COngrats to them!
I think even some of the most downright ugly guys can get girls, they just need game. The girls probably would just try to avoid talking to them at first. I mean, one of the famous wolf brothers is married, and those midgets from Guinness Book of World Records are married too.

fertileTurtle said:
I hear an echo.
Really now? You have good ears, you'll at least get girls for being a good listener.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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...the most talented, intelligent, funniest, coolest, most alpha, more often than not have got the good looks.
Not.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
Really now? You have good ears, you'll at least get girls for being a good listener.
You're gay.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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swifTy said:
says the "fertileTurtle"

sorry man, couldn't resist that one.
I love when we have fun with ourselves.
:rolleyes: :flowers:
 

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Well, as I have posted many times, here are my two cents. I work the front desk of a nice hotel, so I have witnessed hundreds of couples come to the desk to check in or what not. Here is my final vote:

Looks do matter! Don't believe guys who say they don't.

If you want to be with a stunning looking girl, you either have to be model handsome yourself or be slightly above average with cash!!

However, I noticed I have seen quite a few "average at best guys" with 7's and 8's.

I.E. Girl comes in last week with her fiancee to see some rooms. This chick was quite good-looking (5'7", cute face, nice tits). Her fiancee was 5'7", 20 lbs. overweight, had a double chin and was as "average" as you could get. If you saw this guy on the street, you would assume if he had a woman, she would be no higher than a 5 or 6.

Last night, a bride (who just got married) came to the desk to check-in. When I saw her, I was like "Wow, she is quite cute (nice eyes, smile). Her husband was 5'9", slightly overweight, average face with bright red hair and freckles. She was noticeably the better looking of the couple.

Keep in mind, seeing couples like this is NOT RARE!!

THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
Survival value is how well you can survive in the world.
or how well your life is. ^___^
 

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mahon83050 said:
I.E. Girl comes in last week with her fiancee to see some rooms. This chick was quite good-looking (5'7", cute face, nice tits). Her fiancee was 5'7", 20 lbs. overweight, had a double chin and was as "average" as you could get. If you saw this guy on the street, you would assume if he had a woman, she would be no higher than a 5 or 6.


THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
Sup, just wondering, this might sound like a stupid question, but on a scale of 1-10 what exactly would classify as average? Would a 5/10 be a plain/average person? I just needed someone to shed light on my ignorance:confused:
 

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mahon83050 said:
THE FINAL VERDICT: Having a handsome face and height will get you hot chicks alot easier, but AVERAGE AT BEST men can still land 7's and 8's if they have game.
Final verdict: Thread closed.



Do everything you can to improve your looks(posture, clothes, tan, hairstyle, smile, teeth, work out) and forget about all the rest because it doesn't matter. Once you get a real life, where you're doing something that you're very passionate about, then all the rest falls away. Philosophizing about evolutionary theory here is pathetic and pedantic. The end.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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