"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
To the guys who get laid here like a rockstar
- Thread starter verysuave
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
1. when they text first me i always call back. the sooner the better. just keep the calls short. i call about over... 3 days... or something like that. assuming there's positive response. the idea of calling is getting next date and maybe lifting bit her emotions. but she has to be responsive you can't lift the emotions of a brick wall.
2. i don't initiate mostly kino. i don't have to, because they do it. maybe you have to do it first, i don't know. it's funny because i was surprised that girl does not kill you or call immediately the security when you touch her purposely.
3. when they initiate kino (that's normal, don't freak about it) that's the sign that they're ready to be more touched and kissed. and kissing leads to...
anyway the less work the better. it's much more about your presence that your deeds.
Mistic
Senior Don Juan
Case by Case basis. But usually some of it. The real work begins when it's time to pry them off you. Clingy, stalker activity is work to deal with.verysuave said:
theres this one girl from work, (im doing an experiment on this). Anyway, so she texted me, she got my number somehow.. I replied back to her text by texting her back.mcs said:
We see each other at work next day, ive escalated kino and so did she. She walks me outside work after i get off.. I told her, call me the nexy day, 4:00PM on the DOT. She didnt, oh well.
My experiment here was to see how much work/effort or how far ONE is willing
to go to go out with me. Anyway, I havent called her back. I'm waiting for this mother of 3 to initiate everything. We'll see where it goes
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
wjh
Master Don Juan
meaning, you get the number. Or lets say you have each other's numbers already and you still have to all them?wjh said:
Some experiments I did, I have had women thrown their numbers at (ex: what kind of ringtone do you like? Okay, I'm gona hear that ringtone when you call me) and not called them because I was expecting them to call me and initiate everything since they ALREADY have my number after doing a number exchange. (these women avg from 7-7.5 in looks) Well, they didn't call to my surprise
Would you say HOT women with a score of 8-9 looks wise are the only ones who have guts to INITIATE the calling part? I've never really had a "HOTTY" but to you guys who had one, whats your opiinion/experience?
i dont exaclt get "laid like a rockstar", but i have had a good amount of sex this year.verysuave said:
how much work do you have to do: it really depends. personally, im in college, and i havent been on a date in very very long time. (since of middle of senior year in HS). So far in college, getting laid generally happens after meeting the girl for the first time- or else barely knowing the girl and then running into her at a party.
one of the best tactics i know of, is meeting a girl in class and just exchanging small talk, keep it flirty but ntohign serious. then a little while later, invite her to a party -if she goes, you know shes interested. then work it from there, even if she's just there to have to have fun, you'll be one of the only guys she knows (and im sure you'll know plenty of people, as you got to choose the party); this gives a lot of social proof and she should stick to you like glue.
to asnwer your questions specifically
1: i never call, as i dont have reason to, but i certainly initiate the convo -but only after recieving an ioi like a smile or soemthing
2: i definately start the kino. for me, my favorite approach is during beer games. where i'll pretty much go for "high fives" left and right. then a little while later, i get alittle more touchy, and after some more time, shes probably touching me just as much
3. sex is a little tricky. you dont exactly tell her "i want sex" or anything but definately always i go for the kiss. when that heats up, shell most certainly always lead you to the next step. IF not, escalate little by little. she'll let you know if youve gone too far.
good luck!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.