"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey guys I’m a 33 year old guy that’s been dating a virgin Latina 23 year old. We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon. Im debating whether or not to break up with her. I’m tired of waiting for sex. I get blowies from her but she doesn’t let me finish in her mouth. I’ve been bummed out at this situation I’m in.
Should I accept the loss and move on. Or rough it out till she puts out , she has said that by the end of this year she’ll be ready , but I doubt that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hey guys I’m a 33 year old guy that’s been dating a virgin Latina 23 year old. We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon. Im debating whether or not to break up with her. I’m tired of waiting for sex. I get blowies from her but she doesn’t let me finish in her mouth. I’ve been bummed out at this situation I’m in.
Should I accept the loss and move on. Or rough it out till she puts out , she has said that by the end of this year she’ll be ready , but I doubt that.
Is it important to you that she is a virgin? Because Odds are that you wont find another one. I think if you didnt care about it, you would have monkey-branched to another girl a long time ago.
 

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Hey guys I’m a 33 year old guy that’s been dating a virgin Latina 23 year old. We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon. Im debating whether or not to break up with her. I’m tired of waiting for sex. I get blowies from her but she doesn’t let me finish in her mouth. I’ve been bummed out at this situation I’m in.
Should I accept the loss and move on. Or rough it out till she puts out , she has said that by the end of this year she’ll be ready , but I doubt that.
Just let her know that you have physical needs and until she is willing to meet them you will need to date other women as well. Essentially tell her she is being downgraded in status.

She may dump you but whatever. You waited many months too long. IMO she isn't into you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hey guys I’m a 33 year old guy that’s been dating a virgin Latina 23 year old. We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon. Im debating whether or not to break up with her. I’m tired of waiting for sex. I get blowies from her but she doesn’t let me finish in her mouth. I’ve been bummed out at this situation I’m in.
Should I accept the loss and move on. Or rough it out till she puts out , she has said that by the end of this year she’ll be ready , but I doubt that.
That doesn't sound right at all. A virgin who gives blow jobs but avoids penetrative sex for a year now? What possible explanation does she have for this behaviour? :rolleyes:
 

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Shes waiting for something better and offering the bare minimum to keep you around.
Drop your fishing rod in other ponds and you wont care about the wait with the abundance.
If she comes around with the honey pot, it’s a bonus, but focus your efforts elsewhere.
 

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You ain’t turning her stove hot enough. If a woman doesn’t put out after 2 months and that’s pushing it then she either fvcking someone else, she doesn’t see you as a potential sex god, or idling for a better option to give you the “I need some time” treatment.
Virgin or not cut your losses and hit the road. Women are dispensable and money makes the world go round.
 

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She bring up wanting to be married too? What other hoops is she making you jump thru in order to access her sacred velvet love box?

If I'm not fuhking some girl, then I'm not in a relationship with her. She is just a friend.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon
ONE YEAR? :rolleyes:
Like wtf?

Dude she doesn´t (highly likely) desire you enough.
Only exception would be she was brought up in monastery with only nuns and she is extremely devoted to her faith of Christ....
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But is less likely too. But hey they say unicorns exist too, they are just.. Rare, right?

Desire is bytch because you cannot bargain for it. Its either there or it isn´t.

There is millions on girls our there; there is absolutely no logical reason or argument that justifies that you would convert yourself to a monk for years just one girl.

Spin the wheel instead and get rid of your huge blueballs..... :devil:
 
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Hey guys I’m a 33 year old guy that’s been dating a virgin Latina 23 year old. We are approaching our 1 year anniversary soon. Im debating whether or not to break up with her. I’m tired of waiting for sex. I get blowies from her but she doesn’t let me finish in her mouth. I’ve been bummed out at this situation I’m in.
Should I accept the loss and move on. Or rough it out till she puts out , she has said that by the end of this year she’ll be ready , but I doubt that.

Is Anal an option?
 

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No, the reality is that you fvck (way) below average women on tinder and you think you are a pimp. You're like 28-29 but you would still be virgin if old didnt exist. You have no balls or/and you're you ugly/skinny/whatever to talk to women irl.
Thats whats up with you.
Youre in no position to give advice.
Who hurt you bro?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Youre in no position to give advice.
To be fair, he didnt give any advice. Maybe he was proyecting or being blackpill, or something; but I wouldnt call whatever he posted in this thread "giving advice".
 

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One year is not normal. I think @Stuffnu hit the nail the head: She doesnt consider him "worthy" and is keeping him around with blowies until someone "better" comes along.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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