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Your rational mind is ideal on biz or what you study in comp sci. With women, it can come out like stock up the ass. Self amusing is great.

As for comfort and rapport building, get her to do something for you. Hold your drink, buy you a beer/water, etc. Its compliance but it also seeds the pull. Its confirmation bias. Naturally, she holds your drink, buys you a beer, and or bounce location for food. She does this because she likes you. You seed it in her subconscious. Its natural to pull, yo smash, to get a throater lulz. Its that yes ladder. Compliance is KING. As for you, you want to be lower in agreeableness. You even want to break rapport. Cut threads that aren't productive. You can interrupt her. You can embed sexual comments/words randomly and keep talking as if, nothing was said. Again, seed the pull. Compliance being your reference point of calculation of interest level. Merge sets. Role play. Create threads. Use dread game. The feeling of loss is powerful enough to force a woman to be conscious of her desire and to act accordingly.

Nick mate, check pdf drive or your local library. There's a few good reddit links on seduction and pickup. There's a torrent one too lol.
Got flaked on by a chick that I was supposed to go on a date with today. She said she "wasn't feeling well." That's a NEXT in my book.

I have one month of summer left before school starts. My personal and professional aspirations are going along swimmingly, but I don't want to fall short of my intimacy goals this summer either. That would just bum me out.

I see one solution to this... keep doing as many Cold Approaches as I can possibly manage while I'm still doing the Self Improvement. Hopefully I'll run into someone with High Availability and Medium Attraction towards me or the other way around. Then just use the Game I have to seal the deal.

I've reached the point where if I have a chick who is interested in me, I know how to not fvck it up. Now the hard part is finding said chicks who are interested in me lol. Social Circle + Numbers Game
 

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Got flaked on by a chick that I was supposed to go on a date with today. She said she "wasn't feeling well." That's a NEXT in my book.
Agreed. Not likely. I would have sent a 'get better text.' follow up with #nextSet and #delete meaning, she can hit me up.

have one month of summer left before school starts. My personal and professional aspirations are going along swimmingly, but I don't want to fall short of my intimacy goals this summer either. That would just bum me out.

I see one solution to this... keep doing as many Cold Approaches as I can possibly manage while I'm still doing the Self Improvement. Hopefully I'll run into someone with High Availability and Medium Attraction towards me or the other way around. Then just use the Game I have to seal the deal.
Looks max. Lift, fitted clothing, trim beard/hair regularly at barber, and ideally correct your posture. Shoulders back not forward. Chest forward. The old 12 rules Peterson comes to mind. Joe Navarro was recommended by Rollo in a AMA. It helps you with attraction by portraying confident body language + picking up on her body language. It couod be her eye ****ing double take, as simple as her leaning in or out, and a variety of other things. Its sure as **** no quick fix.

Meditate. It helps recharge and reset. Exposure to absurd amount of women and their toxicity is not without consequences. Refrain from outcome dependence.

The mark is, freedom from outcome + intent & & & repeat till dead or D falls off lol.

I've reached the point where if I have a chick who is interested in me, I know how to not fvck it up. Now the hard part is finding said chicks who are interested in me lol. Social Circle + Numbers Game
Thats game. A lot of it isn't ****ing it up. When i started out, I blew pulling back to her place. Either too eager or not enough. Calibrate. Its key.

Its a needle in a hay stack. Not you or i but with cold approach and cold calling. A model pua has 10% success rate. Digest that lol.

Continue to do your part. 3x a day. Avoid rigidity.
 

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Agreed. Not likely. I would have sent a 'get better text.' follow up with #nextSet and #delete meaning, she can hit me up.



Looks max. Lift, fitted clothing, trim beard/hair regularly at barber, and ideally correct your posture. Shoulders back not forward. Chest forward. The old 12 rules Peterson comes to mind. Joe Navarro was recommended by Rollo in a AMA. It helps you with attraction by portraying confident body language + picking up on her body language. It couod be her eye ****ing double take, as simple as her leaning in or out, and a variety of other things. Its sure as **** no quick fix.

Meditate. It helps recharge and reset. Exposure to absurd amount of women and their toxicity is not without consequences. Refrain from outcome dependence.

The mark is, freedom from outcome + intent & & & repeat till dead or D falls off lol.



Thats game. A lot of it isn't ****ing it up. When i started out, I blew pulling back to her place. Either too eager or not enough. Calibrate. Its key.

Its a needle in a hay stack. Not you or i but with cold approach and cold calling. A model pua has 10% success rate. Digest that lol.

Continue to do your part. 3x a day. Avoid rigidity.
So essentially, for me to have a chance at getting a date which could result in sex, I'll need to do anywhere from 10 to 20 Cold Approaches on average. That's actually not the worst thing in the world... I can do that even with all the rejections. Just cause some hot girl doesn't want to sleep with me doesn't mean my value is low as they say.

I think I had mentioned this before, but any more ideas on where to do the daily approaches when you're on campus without a car? I'm saving my internship money to buy one ASAP. I try to go out to a bar or something of the sort two times a week. Alone or with friends, doesn't really matter to me. I haven't tried clubbing alone yet. I'm kind of running out of ideas though cause I don't want to burn it to the ground on campus, or at the same two or three bars for that matter.

And would you say it's about the same odds of success for a Warm Approach through Social Circle or something of the sort?
 
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So essentially, for me to have a chance at getting a date which could result in sex, I'll need to do anywhere from 10 to 20 Cold Approaches on average. That's actually not the worst thing in the world... I can do that even with all the rejections. Just cause some hot girl doesn't want to sleep with me doesn't mean my value is low as they say.
You got a winner mindset. Read the Winner effect. The only caution i would suggest is, 10-20 approach for XYZ result. Its rigidity. Our biology is hardwired to do barely just enough to survive and replicate. The path, the Hero's Journey (David Deida way of the superior man) is in living at your edge. The place in which you feel stretched, at your limits, and going just beyond.

I've had nights, i can fo no wrong and I am pulling and smashin rotten. Pick of the lot. Others, I can burn it yo the ground and not catch tumble weed lulz. Spit the same game, have the same gear on, and it's not taking.

Enjoy the ride playboy.

I think I had mentioned this before, but any more ideas on where to do the daily approaches when you're on campus without a car? I'm saving my internship money to buy one ASAP. I try to go out to a bar or something of the sort two times a week. Alone or with friends, doesn't really matter to me. I haven't tried clubbing alone yet. I'm kind of running out of ideas though cause I don't want to burn it to the ground on campus, or at the same two or three bars for that matter.
Ideally, ho beyond pickup or the need to be domain dependent. If on campus, theirs pockets where a volume of people just are. The gym, pool, any cafe or pub and bar on campus. Again, watch for IOIs and choosing signals. #nextSet #micdrop @ anything feminism, green hair, toxic masculinity rhetoric or patriarchy rubbish. Rape accusations waiting to happen.

I picked up at a dog park today lol.

1st of all i don't have a dog. My mate is needing to find a home so, i was left with it temporarily. I ended up at a dog park. Approached the only chick their who was cute and mirrin my aesthetics. Again, ASSUME ATTRACTION. Proceed with every chick the way you would after your pulling out lololol as in, zero ****s given.

A lot of women are awkward as ****kkk.

And would you say it's about the same odds of success for a Warm Approach through Social Circle or something of the sort?
Warm approach is social circle friends of friends, etc. 8f it takes sure but cultivate cold approach. Seek competence.

If you use OLD, get pro or semi pro pics up. Its purely aesthetics for apps. I syill prefer cold approach. Nobody does it. Better conversion rate. I enjoy breaking the ice. At which point, I have nothing to lose. I never see her again anyway (hence why work is foolish as fallout has consequences). I only want to smash. A plate has little to no function. Assume ONS till proven otherwise. Fwb is a upgrade (if she should be so lucky). Anything beyond is extra. At your discretion. Seek competence in cold approach. Embrace the awkwardness.

Think symphysis boulder is cold approach initial open. You carry most of the convo. As you hook, she runs with it. You expell energy. You are takin action.


At a certain point, its second nature. You don't wonder what to say. Gift for gab. Million dollar mouth piece. Think unleashed. Collars off. Getting girls and smashin rotten (or not for a lack of effort)!
 

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Even knowing all this, I still managed to hesitate on a possible approach today. I'll be out at the bar tomorrow but I gotta step my Game up lol
 

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Even knowing all this, I still managed to hesitate on a possible approach today. I'll be out at the bar tomorrow but I gotta step my Game up lol
Happens to everyone lol. Don't stress it.

Also, for the flakes, I shoot 'em random invites to my apartment from time to time--wait a couple weeks. "Help me finish this bottle of wine so I don't turn into an alcoholic." Or small pings "stop thinking about me," and then just don't reply unless hers is super enthusiastic. It's low return, but low investment, and enough of them do come thru that it's worth doing. If you still want to see her, then that's just being true to yourself. If you don't then don't do it just for the sake of doing it.
 

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Happens to everyone lol. Don't stress it.

Also, for the flakes, I shoot 'em random invites to my apartment from time to time--wait a couple weeks. "Help me finish this bottle of wine so I don't turn into an alcoholic." Or small pings "stop thinking about me," and then just don't reply unless hers is super enthusiastic. It's low return, but low investment, and enough of them do come thru that it's worth doing. If you still want to see her, then that's just being true to yourself. If you don't then don't do it just for the sake of doing it.
Haha I really like that actually. It's fun and you don't lose your self respect cause you aren't chasing. I also really like the Two Strikes Rule from back in the day on SS
 
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I'm kinda getting sick of doing night approaches at bars... I'm gonna do some more Daygame I think
 

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Also @DEEZEDBRAH if I can pick your brain a bit more... Did you ever have any luck with Hired Gun game? I've tried it a couple times but not too much luck. I know MM has a whole section on that.
 

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Also @DEEZEDBRAH if I can pick your brain a bit more... Did you ever have any luck with Hired Gun game? I've tried it a couple times but not too much luck. I know MM has a whole section on that.
Mystery wanted to be a magician. His entire persona and shtick was aimed at hired guns. Its honestly not my thing. Mystery picked up strippers. Yes they can be attractive but its short of escort. I met one who was cool. Older than i like. Check MM th3 book and or venetian arts i think its called.

If you continue, 3x on the regular, you calibrate, and learn, i have no doubt you will succeed. How old are you? If college, studying comp sci STEM degree. Likely young. Say early 20s? You have youth on your side and therefore more potential than me. Furthermore, you neee to stau focused on purpose and life path. Get paper right. Bank money. Don't touch your savings. Pickup is for sport. 3x regularly is the bedrock for competence. At thst point, what ever you do after won't matter.

The old taf forum which was mystery lounge before LS took it over, is dead. Rsdnation is dead. Pickup obsession is not a good time. Women can get laid easily. A lot aren't happy on life.
 

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Mystery wanted to be a magician. His entire persona and shtick was aimed at hired guns. Its honestly not my thing. Mystery picked up strippers. Yes they can be attractive but its short of escort. I met one who was cool. Older than i like. Check MM th3 book and or venetian arts i think its called.

If you continue, 3x on the regular, you calibrate, and learn, i have no doubt you will succeed. How old are you? If college, studying comp sci STEM degree. Likely young. Say early 20s? You have youth on your side and therefore more potential than me. Furthermore, you neee to stau focused on purpose and life path. Get paper right. Bank money. Don't touch your savings. Pickup is for sport. 3x regularly is the bedrock for competence. At thst point, what ever you do after won't matter.

The old taf forum which was mystery lounge before LS took it over, is dead. Rsdnation is dead. Pickup obsession is not a good time. Women can get laid easily. A lot aren't happy on life.
Honestly, my ultimate final goal is to be something kinda like that. I see myself in 10 years as kind of a super PUA like those guys. That would be amazing. Obviously I have a long way to go.

I'm 22 Years Old. I'm totally prepared to spend 10-15 years on this stuff to be amazing at it. All my peers are getting married, but I have a 0% interest in that right now. And finance wise, I'm saving money for a car rn. I'm gonna need one so I can get to work and pay off my Student Debt lol. I'm working on graduating as soon as I can, 2 more classes to knock out before I'm done with my Summer Term.
 

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Also I meant to put one of my failed approaches in here if anyone wants to chime in... So there's this cute girl at the store I go to every day(I don't have a fridge) and I saw her walking out of work. She asked me if I walk here everyday, and if I had a car, and we had a very short logistical conversation and that was it.

In hindsight, I was like dang I could've made that an approach! I'm not sure exactly how I would've made that Man to Woman though. The best thing I could come up with after the fact is just asking her about her day at work, flirt a bit, and then invite her out to x bar. Then get her contact info. Assume Attraction right?

I'm wondering if that would work, and could I try some sh*t like that the next time I see her while she's on the clock or is that just bad taste?
 

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Honestly, my ultimate final goal is to be something kinda like that. I see myself in 10 years as kind of a super PUA like those guys. That would be amazing. Obviously I have a long way to go
Spend 10yrs on building a business or platform. Something of intrinsic value. Acquire competence so you are not divorce raped.
I'm 22 Years Old. I'm totally prepared to spend 10-15 years on this stuff to be amazing at it. All my peers are getting married, but I have a 0% interest in that right now. And finance wise, I'm saving money for a car rn. I'm gonna need one so I can get to work and pay off my Student Debt lol. I'm working on graduating as soon as I can, 2 more classes to knock out before I'm done with my Summer Term.

Tons of time bud. Chase excellence. Women come and go.
 

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Does the approach count if I go up to someone and they turn out to be married therefore I don't end up number closing?

Whenever I go to bars I'm usually more interested in the waitresses than the patrons lol. Still not sure about hired Gun game. I think that warrants a separate thread honestly
 

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Does the approach count if I go up to someone and they turn out to be married therefore I don't end up number closing?
I once hit on a hot Russian chick. She was age 23 but looked older. Was still damn hot. Almost got in a fight with her Russian husband who looked like Fedor in his prime.

Whenever I go to bars I'm usually more interested in the waitresses than the patrons lol. Still not sure about hired Gun game. I think that warrants a separate thread honestly
Buy mystery method and venesian arts off amazon. Its ideal for stripper game and hired guns. I've picked up chicks at their work, bars, clubs, cafes, coffee shops, shopping centers, gym, etc. No strippers or off duty escorts. My mate pulled a hot girl in London who lived in the hookers territory. We razed him about it. She was hot lol.
 

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I once hit on a hot Russian chick. She was age 23 but looked older. Was still damn hot. Almost got in a fight with her Russian husband who looked like Fedor in his prime.



Buy mystery method and venesian arts off amazon. Its ideal for stripper game and hired guns. I've picked up chicks at their work, bars, clubs, cafes, coffee shops, shopping centers, gym, etc. No strippers or off duty escorts. My mate pulled a hot girl in London who lived in the hookers territory. We razed him about it. She was hot lol.
I'm gonna start. Hired Gun game seems very fun lol.

You gotta be very low inhib and just truly not give a fvck about anything. It's one thing to type it but another to do it lol. Out working on it rn. That c0cky arrogant swag is the way to go. Being nice is some Blue Pill bullshyt lol. I've been trying to make sure that I don't have a bigass grin on my face whenever I do an approach.

I'm also getting better at this rambling thing that Roosh is talking about.
 
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For example... I was thinking about this approach where the girl seemed very high interest in me but turned out to be an Attention Wh0re.

Instead of hugging her at the car, the correct answer is:
1.) Be like no, I want a kiss. Make out.
2.) Have her drive you home
3.) Invite her in
4.) Destroy LMR
5.) Smash

Did a couple approaches today, didn't get the number before they ran off unfortunately.
 
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I'm gonna start. Hired Gun game seems very fun lol.

You gotta be very low inhib and just truly not give a fvck about anything. It's one thing to type it but another to do it lol. Out working on it rn. That c0cky arrogant swag is the way to go. Being nice is some Blue Pill bullshyt lol. I've been trying to make sure that I don't have a bigass grin on my face whenever I do an approach.

I'm also getting better at this rambling thing that Roosh is talking about.
Its not my thing. I had almost pulled a stripper but, i knew her before. I ended up bouncing to a club. She was a pill popper. Oxy. Pain killers. Wasted talent.

Did you read 30 bang, day game or game? Strauss game i like. It was my intro to pua. I enjoy stories. Its another thing mystery really hammered on. DHV through story telling. Compliance, IOIs, charm, charisma, and phase shift after a series of IOIs. As in, esculate. Neg = indifference, acknowledge she's not perfect, backhanded compliments, etc. Its a bit ridiculous but the basic criteria is gold. Mystery has charm and character that RooshV simply lacks. I cannot help pull for the dude. He's a pioneer. One of the original Rs and goat status underdog.

I recommend buying game just to support content creator who is deplatformed. Its nothing new or revolutionary. Its relevant to the culture and rodks of false accusations.
 

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For example... I was thinking about this approach where the girl seemed very high interest in me but turned out to be an Attention Wh0re.

Instead of hugging her at the car, the correct answer is:
1.) Be like no, I want a kiss. Make out.
2.) Have her drive you home
3.) Invite her in
4.) Destroy LMR
5.) Smash

Did a couple approaches today, didn't get the number before they ran off unfortunately.
The MM style n close was to get investment as to, how can we keep on contact. Her suggesting # offers more value than asking for it as its her idea.

Outdated with smart phones and ig.

I don't do ig. If a girl gives fb, i guess it is worthless imho to be a follower. Its simping. Plain and simple.

I recycle and discard #s after 3 attempts of a invite or less. One word answer i next.

As for esculation, the MM style to k close was:

"you look like you want to kiss me."

{think javascript loop statements}

[if yes] kiss.

[If not] anything but hard IOIs, "i didn't say you could. It looked like you had something on your mind." lulz

Its a template like 3x approach. When the student becomes the master, run your own gambit, canned material from exp, and your own style.

As for LMR, I concur with Rollo. I want" hell yeah."

#nextSet @ LMR, low sex drive, low libido, feminists, body positivity, proud single mom, cawo carousel, etc.

In the false accusations era of #metoo, pick dtf, feminine, and submissive. Screenshot nudes, archive her sexting, and send complimentary post smash text. Screenshot it. Archive it in the event false accusations.

Play to win. Protect your self. Bring your own condoms. No raw dawg warrior.
 
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