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My experience has been different. Given enough time, I can make any woman become attracted to me. Even those who strongly disliked me in the beginning come around eventually. Only thing is though, I NEED time. I need to be some around them through some sort of natural social setting e.g. work, school, volunteering events, etc. That’s the most natural way to do it tbh. I personally can’t do ‘dates’ lol it just feels so unnatural. Especially if the chick can’t keep the conversation flowing and expects me to do all the leg work, ugh that’s annoying. Then I end up thinking I need to do more, which will bleed into my normal real-life interactions, and it makes me end up talking too much.
That's different. That would be making her feel some emotion rather than making her feel nothing. I do that quite some times as well. Better make her fight you and feel opposed to you, then if you know how AND her interest level is initially high enough to begin with, you can turn that into tension which should translata into sexual tension.

I'm saying if she doesnt't like the way you look by herself...hardly anything you can do about it.
 

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@corrector my experience has been different. I ain't pretty deffo not chadlite. And I've robbed those apps like a bandit and got plenty of tail. But being a bit OCD like most of the forum I also used it as a learning experience. It's really just marketing different messages appeal to different demographics. Game does exist it's called not being boring.

And the whole alpha thing is overplayed here. I'm sure it helps if you are the mythical buffed tatted millionaire. But there's plenty of average girls were bored out of their brains. and newsflash most of them would have put up an OLD profile at some point even if just for fun with their girlfriends.

Obviously you should go multi-channel. Have a go at the girl at the bar, the girl at the bus stop at the market, yoga class etc. Hangout a couple of profiles on the apps and see what comes back use that for messaging practice and how to get them on dates quickly. And there's a point here that a lot of guys seem to miss it's all about habit. If you make up your rules for interacting with the OLD chicks then you are practicing sticking to those rules dozens if not hundreds of times that cements the habbits.
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It really is like fishing sometimes the fish r on a run and you should keep throwing your hook in the water as fast as you can. Sometimes the fish ain't biting and it's time to pull down your cap crack another brewski and enjoy the view.
 

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I'm saying if she doesnt't like the way you look by herself...hardly anything you can do about it.
But that’s exactly what I’m saying, I HAVE done something about it haha I’ve made myself become attractive in their eyes over time, girls who thought I was ugly or unattractive for various reasons (if they think I’m unattractive, it’s usually because the first time they see me, I’m not dressed well; first impressions count a lot). Then over time things change and you can see their behavior/demeanor towards you change. But it requires a constant social environment though (and I’m not talking drinks or nightclubs and such).
 

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Why is it when a girl matches with me on tinder she rarely replies back? I write my messages like im using match. Is it because tinder different type of people compared to match?
 

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@corrector my experience has been different. I ain't pretty deffo not chadlite. And I've robbed those apps like a bandit and got plenty of tail. But being a bit OCD like most of the forum I also used it as a learning experience. It's really just marketing different messages appeal to different demographics. Game does exist it's called not being boring.

And the whole alpha thing is overplayed here. I'm sure it helps if you are the mythical buffed tatted millionaire. But there's plenty of average girls were bored out of their brains. and newsflash most of them would have put up an OLD profile at some point even if just for fun with their girlfriends.

Obviously you should go multi-channel. Have a go at the girl at the bar, the girl at the bus stop at the market, yoga class etc. Hangout a couple of profiles on the apps and see what comes back use that for messaging practice and how to get them on dates quickly. And there's a point here that a lot of guys seem to miss it's all about habit. If you make up your rules for interacting with the OLD chicks then you are practicing sticking to those rules dozens if not hundreds of times that cements the habbits.
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It really is like fishing sometimes the fish r on a run and you should keep throwing your hook in the water as fast as you can. Sometimes the fish ain't biting and it's time to pull down your cap crack another brewski and enjoy the view.
These may be worldly women though with worldly values. Already have enough temptations in life without aggrevating things further. Should only chase after women if I am obsessed with visiting an escort because that may be a desire to want a woman I guess. But usually they come out of the woodwork if I go into that wavelength. Best to plug up any source of temptation or barrier to living a holy life until something disturbs that order of thought. (Ie seeing a happy couple out there, etc...).
 

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Off topic but when I was fapping everyday I got like 3 4 matches maybe on tinder. After a year of no fap I decided to sign up for tinder 2 weeks ago. I currently have 54 matches with the same photos in less time compared to when I was fapping
 

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Off topic but when I was fapping everyday I got like 3 4 matches maybe on tinder. After a year of no fap I decided to sign up for tinder 2 weeks ago. I currently have 54 matches with the same photos in less time compared to when I was fapping
How many of those matches would you say are decent women? I mean how many of them are undesired women or fake profiles? I mean like land whales or races you wont date.
 

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Yeah, this is something I heard on one of Rollo's shows on YouTube: women will differentiate their behaviour and if they want you as their boyfriend, they will try and act shy, will try and withhold sex through a plethora of "reasons" like religion, "I don't have sex before X number of dates", they will play it out cause they want the guy they see as boyfriend material not to think they are dirty *****s who sleep on the first date and **** like pornstars.

On the other hand, if they feel a guy is "alpha", if they have true desire and lust for the guy and I could even go to the point of saying if they subconsciously want his babies, they will put out and will break every rule you might have heard women have. She will do it all, rough sex, hard ****ing, hair pulling, she will talk dirty, she will even take it in the ass if the attraction is through the rough and she sees you as a real one time chance.

So guys...use this to distinguish for yourselves: if a girl doesn't give you a clear sexual vibe or returns yours...you're boyfriend material. Do not sweat it, maybe you;re totally alright and she's just not into you, but trust me, you wanna know a girl desires you and will do anything to keep you including everything I just said up there. From that point on, if you like her as girlfriend material...you can CHOOSE not to have sex with her right away. A lot of men here say "well, if she ****s right away, she;'s a hoe", but I don't agree with that. There are women who will make themselves available right away if they really like you and part of becoming a true man is distinguishing between the women who bang everyone on the first time they meet and a woman that is really into you and wants to bang YOU right away cause she really likes you. Hunt for these women and pick one that you could consider as a longer term partner.
There's a chick I randomly hit up on Fbook and sexted with while drunk, but never did anything else. Saw she moved near me so years later hit her up and now that she sees me as a boyfriend material guy she is coy af lol
 

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There's a chick I randomly hit up on Fbook and sexted with while drunk, but never did anything else. Saw she moved near me so years later hit her up and now that she sees me as a boyfriend material guy she is coy af lol
Could it also be that it’s “years later” and that maybe she’s hitting the wall soon or smth?
 

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How many of those matches would you say are decent women? I mean how many of them are undesired women or fake profiles? I mean like land whales or races you wont date.
I'm heterosexual so I date all races, the fake profiles I unmatched they are easy to spot. There are some fat women, but alot are average to above average looking. The incredibly good looking women are 99 percent fake profiles. We can't forget about filters and women and there angle pictures. Women generally picture better
 

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I'm heterosexual so I date all races, the fake profiles I unmatched they are easy to spot. There are some fat women, but alot are average to above average looking. The incredibly good looking women are 99 percent fake profiles. We can't forget about filters and women and there angle pictures. Women generally picture better
Yep. On OLD if it's a 9 or above it's usually fake. Especially if you see them online literally 24/7.

What gets me is the women who use fuzzy pics from like 2010 and you can even tell by the background and such.

There is nothing wrong with using the filters, nearly everyone does and especially on OLD which you need everything in your arsenal. The main thing with me is women hiding weight or lying about their age.

That's why it's important to get their number so you can go on spy dailer and see their last name and then look them up on facebook and google. That has saved me from some land whales and lower HB and wasting time and money on a first date.
 

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Yep. On OLD if it's a 9 or above it's usually fake. Especially if you see them online literally 24/7.

What gets me is the women who use fuzzy pics from like 2010 and you can even tell by the background and such.

There is nothing wrong with using the filters, nearly everyone does and especially on OLD which you need everything in your arsenal. The main thing with me is women hiding weight or lying about their age.

That's why it's important to get their number so you can go on spy dailer and see their last name and then look them up on facebook and google. That has saved me from some land whales and lower HB and wasting time and money on a first date.
when I was on Tinder, some of the girls I matched & chatted with had me FaceTime them So they could see I wasnt frauding.
 

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when I was on Tinder, some of the girls I matched & chatted with had me FaceTime them So they could see I wasnt frauding.
That too. But once I get their number I can quickly verify. I dont face time or Skype bs. Dont want to give your number before meeting then next them.
 

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