Tinder ‘study’—this **** literally proves the 80/20 rule

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You really have no control when it comes to it.
I know that my guy, that’s why I also stated this:
no ***** is willing to do all that. I don’t even know if it’s get to the stage where she’d feel remorse—bitches nowadays are so into instant gratification that they’ll jump ship on the next sign of a bigger boat.
Your whole being and ego is reacting to her because she's controlling the frame.
I mean, I guess?

It’s just an adaptation to a change in the dynamics. You don’t treat a girlfriend the same way you’d treat a ****buddy. And when you demote a ***** to ****buddy, treating them as your girlfriend still when you KNOW she’s just another hoe makes you a simp. You might as well send her flowers and chocolate while crying to her face why she doesn’t love you lol.

It’s not even reacting out of ‘ego’ either. I know you think that because of the whole ‘break her heart’ stuff, but that’s a necessary process in giving her another chance. My actions are done out of altruism, not spite. If I REALLY was an *******, I’d just give her the ugh-I-can’t-believe-she’s-one-of-those looks and then never talk to her ever again. She’d prolly blow up my phone, and then become more unstable for the next guy bc it’d essentially be another form of ‘alpha widowing’ her, as Desdinova would say.
 
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This is a great blackpill thread. It makes any investment in improving yourself to get more attractive with women as a waste of time because you'll just get someone's sloppy seconds if you are lucky enough to find someone to settle for your "improved self". You know from high school or elementary school if you are in the top echelon of men. I mean, even people who have improved themselves on here and got good with women have to deal with the fact there is a power imbalance as long as she has access to Tinder or some other dating app that you'll still end up short at the end of the day.

Look at people like biggoal, they can't even attract an older women that should be shooting fish in a barrel. Even they are hypergamy spoiled out. Keep the blackpill threads coming! Nothing like inspiration to do nothing because most women are slvts who got smashed by a Chad and is making you run through hoops and run game. The funny thing is they just throw themselves and make their interest well known of who they want to deal with.
Yep. Improving yourself should always just be for you. Not to attract women. In my younger days... 18-mid 20s I was very blue pill. I wanted to improve myself to improve myself, but I also had women in mind. “Well if I have this and this...” or “if I’m this and this...”. I wish I could slap my old self sometimes.

You’re better off just focusing on hobbies and goals than wasting time on these apps.

It’s been about a year and a half since I’ve been on one, but I always remember the years I was on it. I would often see a lot of the same women on them. I would go a few months to a year in between sometimes. Re-download Tinder and a lot of the same women I’ve seen previously already...

And I thought...

“Either these women don’t meet anyone and are just on for validation or they’ve been plowed through more times than the tracks at a train station”.
 

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I’m always in a complete shocked that most guys don’t already know that focusing on your purpose usually leads to women on your wavelength showing up a few times a year -which should be enough for a soft harem, and chasing after h0es whether it’s the clubs or tinder will lead to nothing but leftovers, slvts pretending to play brand new, and bitter man hating hags.

This should be universal knowledge by now, yet guys continue to refuse to adopt some type of higher purpose and continue to chase after petty a$$ romance with low hanging fruit masquerading as women.
 

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It's also something I noticed that "porn style sex" occurs on these casual encounters and women seem to enjoy that but many don't feel comfortable doing that with a long term partner.
I'll have to keep this in mind so that the next time I pork a Tinderette, I'll slap her butt and tiitfork her.
 
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My experiance has been girls I’ve met in Tinder are very horny. And kinky. Like hair pulling, biting, dirty talk. Most were into hard missionary. And wanting to peg me. But I skipped on that.
OK, I hate to sound L7, but what does "peg" mean?
 

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I lied, it’s not 80/20. It’s more like 15/20. Check it out:

Key highlights for you guys:

- Unlike I thought, 240 of the 300 girls actually had sex through tinder! Only less than 50 of the 300 men, which is remarkable.

- Something negative: Around 50 women admitted to have cheated through Tinder. Very few guys have. In almost all cases, the partner doesn't have a clue.


Check out this one comment by the woman who did this thing herself:

It's also something I noticed that "porn style sex" occurs on these casual encounters and women seem to enjoy that but many don't feel comfortable doing that with a long term partner. There's the saying, it's pretty misogynistic but also holds some truth, "girls want to be treated like a princess and ****ed like a slut". The thing is that is hard to form these two contradicting bonds with one partner. That's why we often see women giving it up for some guys who treat them like "sluts" and have crazy sex in no time, but take a while to put out with a serious partner. it's like the saying "alpha ****s, beta bucks". I know that this isn't the best view I'm giving on my own gender, but as a future sexologist/scientist I need to be objective, and it's a harsh truth.


For any of you lurkers here, this one is for you. This is reality.
Considering I phucked several girls from Tinder and have some lined up (also dismissed some) it kind of confirms my view that I'm solid 8 but there are guys above me that don't have time to reply to all those ONS-leading messages.

Poor chumps looking for love. Life is unfair *grabs a cig*
 

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Yep. Improving yourself should always just be for you. Not to attract women. In my younger days... 18-mid 20s I was very blue pill. I wanted to improve myself to improve myself, but I also had women in mind. “Well if I have this and this...” or “if I’m this and this...”. I wish I could slap my old self sometimes.
How would you differentiate that blue pill idea for improving yourself with the red-pill advice of the SAME thing argument made on here? It seems now that the game hype from the middle 00s decade nose-dived the last decade, the only last thing that's left is "improving yourself" so your SMV is high enough to get a foot into the door?

JayAce said:
You’re better off just focusing on hobbies and goals than wasting time on these apps.
Again this is highly unrealistic advice because you can't really do that without having a consideration of meeting women in the equation. Most guys hobbies, myself included, don't really help towards meeting women. It's quite possible, you could live a happily isolated life as a loner focusing on your hobbies or goals and improving yourself if you haven't thought it out properly as to whether its helpful towards meeting and attracting women.

If you've read my prior posts or threads then you'll know that I have never personally tried these apps. It sounds like adultfriendfinder the way people have been portraying it, or perhaps another version of plentyoffish. The brunt of dating sites I have tried were in the 00s decade and gradually just dealing with Christian dating sites to meet Christian women in the last decade, both of which have been colossal disasters as a net result with some nice moments, and currently I'm not on any dating sites or apps. My issue is that I have put in allot of time towards streaming services/entertainment where I"ve simply lost interest in seriously meeting women because those types of hobbies are very time-consuming. However, when I keep looking at other posters, like biggoal, then it does not give me any inspiration to try OLD because they are too desperate towards picking up any woman that I feel OLD makes you into a desperate chump that clings on to any breadcrumb of validation.

JayAce said:
It’s been about a year and a half since I’ve been on one, but I always remember the years I was on it. I would often see a lot of the same women on them. I would go a few months to a year in between sometimes. Re-download Tinder and a lot of the same women I’ve seen previously already...

And I thought...

“Either these women don’t meet anyone and are just on for validation or they’ve been plowed through more times than the tracks at a train station”.
Again, I have never been on an app. However, I can remember in the 00s decade, and the last decade that you'd see the same types of issues that are on there today. The apps are just a modern incarnation of the same problem that was there in the 00s decade where women have a power-imbalance when it comes to online dating and where its easy to develop oneitis crushes with any decent woman that gives you attention online when you ego gets hit by all the ignores or weak replies.

So it seems like a problem that has always been around.

Honestly, in 2006 when I was on plentyoffish, I noticed there were a number of women that had profiles in a legit dating platform that you would think are normal girls. When I went on adultfriendfinder, you'd see a number of profiles of the same girls also on that site as well.
If a woman is on adultfriendfinder then she's also likely going to be a svlt. In the 00s, adultfriendfinder would be what Tinder is today, at least the way it is portrayed on here and by the media.

Everything that is said on here about Tinder, or the 80/20 rule is something that also existed in say 2006, before the smartphone and before the apps and this is simply a modern re-hash of an almost two decade old thing.
 
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I think you dudes should stop putting any weight in on these "studies". While, this and many of us already know, Tinder is not the norm for dating and relating, just cheating and hookups. However, you'd be surprised how many ladies, young ladies, think they can get a relationship out of Tinder these days. A study is just a sampling. Usually, the sampling is not as reliable due to the type of population, area on where they took the study, etc. A lady from NYC prob. would act a bit different than a lady from say Columbus, OH. Just saying, keep it in perspective. Tinder will go down in use too, just give it time.
 
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I think you dudes should stop putting any weight in on these "studies". While, this and many of us already know, Tinder is not the norm for dating and relating, just cheating and hookups. However, you'd be surprised how many ladies, young ladies, think they can get a relationship out of Tinder these days. A study is just a sampling. Usually, the sampling is not as reliable due to the type of population, area on where they took the study, etc. A lady from NYC prob. would act a bit different than a lady from say Columbus, OH. Just saying, keep it in perspective. Tinder will go down in use too, just give it time.
Agreed and looking at the link, I don't see how this is a "study." More like an unverifiable straw poll. That said the numbers wouldn't surprise me if they were true.

But if guys are not pounding your women like porn stars, they're not giving them what they want. Release their inner slvts!
 

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How would you differentiate that blue pill idea for improving yourself with the red-pill advice of the SAME thing argument made on here? It seems now that the game hype from the middle 00s decade nose-dived the last decade, the only last thing that's left is "improving yourself" so your SMV is high enough to get a foot into the door?



Again this is highly unrealistic advice because you can't really do that without having a consideration of meeting women in the equation. Most guys hobbies, myself included, don't really help towards meeting women. It's quite possible, you could live a happily isolated life as a loner focusing on your hobbies or goals and improving yourself if you haven't thought it out properly as to whether its helpful towards meeting and attracting women.

If you've read my prior posts or threads then you'll know that I have never personally tried these apps. It sounds like adultfriendfinder the way people have been portraying it, or perhaps another version of plentyoffish. The brunt of dating sites I have tried were in the 00s decade and gradually just dealing with Christian dating sites to meet Christian women in the last decade, both of which have been colossal disasters as a net result with some nice moments, and currently I'm not on any dating sites or apps. My issue is that I have put in allot of time towards streaming services/entertainment where I"ve simply lost interest in seriously meeting women because those types of hobbies are very time-consuming. However, when I keep looking at other posters, like biggoal, then it does not give me any inspiration to try OLD because they are too desperate towards picking up any woman that I feel OLD makes you into a desperate chump that clings on to any breadcrumb of validation.



Again, I have never been on an app. However, I can remember in the 00s decade, and the last decade that you'd see the same types of issues that are on there today. The apps are just a modern incarnation of the same problem that was there in the 00s decade where women have a power-imbalance when it comes to online dating and where its easy to develop oneitis crushes with any decent woman that gives you attention online when you ego gets hit by all the ignores or weak replies.

So it seems like a problem that has always been around.

Honestly, in 2006 when I was on plentyoffish, I noticed there were a number of women that had profiles in a legit dating platform that you would think are normal girls. When I went on adultfriendfinder, you'd see a number of profiles of the same girls also on that site as well.
If a woman is on adultfriendfinder then she's also likely going to be a svlt. In the 00s, adultfriendfinder would be what Tinder is today, at least the way it is portrayed on here and by the media.

Everything that is said on here about Tinder, or the 80/20 rule is something that also existed in say 2006, before the smartphone and before the apps and this is simply a modern re-hash of an almost two decade old thing.
OLD has gone way downhill the last 10 years, even the last 5 years I notice the quality of women have gone way down, while you have more guys than ever on there thanks to smartphones.

It used to be easy to get replies and such OLD and half arse it. Now it's a lot different.

I think smartphones f*cked it up. Used to be you had to sit down in front of your computer to actually use it. Now just whip your phone out. This also makes it easier for them to set up validation accounts to show their friends when they have no real intentions of actually using it to meet people.
 

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Also, gotta figure 20 percent of those profiles are validation and another 15 to 20 percent are the usual fake profiles. So when you really think of it that really narrows down the potential women on there.
 

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Well I deleted my Tinder profile and made a new one. So far just a crappy bio and a few pics because I haven't had time to really work on it yet and within an hour already 6 people swiped on me but I can't see what they look like because I don't have tinder gold and haven't swiped on them yet.

Yea, such BS the ELO thing. It pushes new users to the top of the line because to get 6 people liking you within an hour in this region. So how often do you guys delete your profiles? When you delete it do they pro rate the Tinder Gold?
 
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I think you dudes should stop putting any weight in on these "studies". While, this and many of us already know, Tinder is not the norm for dating and relating, just cheating and hookups. However, you'd be surprised how many ladies, young ladies, think they can get a relationship out of Tinder these days. A study is just a sampling. Usually, the sampling is not as reliable due to the type of population, area on where they took the study, etc. A lady from NYC prob. would act a bit different than a lady from say Columbus, OH. Just saying, keep it in perspective. Tinder will go down in use too, just give it time.
Ugh, dude I can’t believe I even have to reply to you.

This is just a reminder to reaffirm what we already know. I know about confounders and everything related, I’m not saying it as some sort of ‘realization’, I myself am wayyy past that mindset already and I’ve never actually used online dating apps in my life unless it was just for trolling random people with my friends back when I was in high school lol. Truth be told, I could probably still pull tail from there had I tried because I think I got the looks for it. But don’t think I’m an idiot, I’m not a noob on here bruh
 

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Yeah, this is something I heard on one of Rollo's shows on YouTube: women will differentiate their behaviour and if they want you as their boyfriend, they will try and act shy, will try and withhold sex through a plethora of "reasons" like religion, "I don't have sex before X number of dates", they will play it out cause they want the guy they see as boyfriend material not to think they are dirty *****s who sleep on the first date and **** like pornstars.

On the other hand, if they feel a guy is "alpha", if they have true desire and lust for the guy and I could even go to the point of saying if they subconsciously want his babies, they will put out and will break every rule you might have heard women have. She will do it all, rough sex, hard ****ing, hair pulling, she will talk dirty, she will even take it in the ass if the attraction is through the rough and she sees you as a real one time chance.

So guys...use this to distinguish for yourselves: if a girl doesn't give you a clear sexual vibe or returns yours...you're boyfriend material. Do not sweat it, maybe you;re totally alright and she's just not into you, but trust me, you wanna know a girl desires you and will do anything to keep you including everything I just said up there. From that point on, if you like her as girlfriend material...you can CHOOSE not to have sex with her right away. A lot of men here say "well, if she ****s right away, she;'s a hoe", but I don't agree with that. There are women who will make themselves available right away if they really like you and part of becoming a true man is distinguishing between the women who bang everyone on the first time they meet and a woman that is really into you and wants to bang YOU right away cause she really likes you. Hunt for these women and pick one that you could consider as a longer term partner.
 

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OLD has gone way downhill the last 10 years, even the last 5 years I notice the quality of women have gone way down, while you have more guys than ever on there thanks to smartphones.

It used to be easy to get replies and such OLD and half arse it. Now it's a lot different.

I think smartphones f*cked it up. Used to be you had to sit down in front of your computer to actually use it. Now just whip your phone out. This also makes it easier for them to set up validation accounts to show their friends when they have no real intentions of actually using it to meet people.
How many second dates, hookups or relationships did you get? You keep talking about replies and first dates like they mean something.
 

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Yeah, this is something I heard on one of Rollo's shows on YouTube: women will differentiate their behaviour and if they want you as their boyfriend, they will try and act shy, will try and withhold sex through a plethora of "reasons" like religion, "I don't have sex before X number of dates", they will play it out cause they want the guy they see as boyfriend material not to think they are dirty *****s who sleep on the first date and **** like pornstars.

On the other hand, if they feel a guy is "alpha", if they have true desire and lust for the guy and I could even go to the point of saying if they subconsciously want his babies, they will put out and will break every rule you might have heard women have. She will do it all, rough sex, hard ****ing, hair pulling, she will talk dirty, she will even take it in the ass if the attraction is through the rough and she sees you as a real one time chance.

So guys...use this to distinguish for yourselves: if a girl doesn't give you a clear sexual vibe or returns yours...you're boyfriend material. Do not sweat it, maybe you;re totally alright and she's just not into you, but trust me, you wanna know a girl desires you and will do anything to keep you including everything I just said up there. From that point on, if you like her as girlfriend material...you can CHOOSE not to have sex with her right away. A lot of men here say "well, if she ****s right away, she;'s a hoe", but I don't agree with that. There are women who will make themselves available right away if they really like you and part of becoming a true man is distinguishing between the women who bang everyone on the first time they meet and a woman that is really into you and wants to bang YOU right away cause she really likes you. Hunt for these women and pick one that you could consider as a longer term partner.
Most guys will not take a girl seriously if she puts out too fast. It comes like a spoiler to a movie. All the excitement and suspense is gone once you tasted her and now want to.get rid of her. I see many posts on here where I think that is not realistic. We would be wired to move on to another girl because she does not seem that special anymore.
 
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