"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mustfirstregister

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I sometimes take months, even years to get the deal done which I think it's a lot of time wasted. I still ocassionally email this chick from another state. Just hoping someday I can bed her. I met her back in 2003, dated her only after she turned 18 or 19, that was less than 2 years ago in 2008. But I escalated too fast and got burned. So, occassionally I email her to re-establish contact and be friend with her again. No, I don't have oneitis. I have moved on and bed another girl and mess around with my EX. I emailed her to see how she was doing yesterday afternoon and got a response today in the morning. Not sure about this but I'm planning to go old school and tell her that "I like her" in my next email and ask if she wants to be with me. How much time do you guys usually take in order to bed a girl?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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brekke

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Wow. You met her when she was 13. You waited 7 years. This is creepy.
 

Scion

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and here I thought I was pathetic. I feel better now, thanks XD
 

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Wow
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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mustfirstregister

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I think she was 16 when I first met her. But I was not attracted to her. I'm not attracted to her. I just wanna bed her. You guys still didn't answer my question. How long do you spend to actually bed a girl?
 

brekke

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mustfirstregister said:
I met her back in 2003, dated her only after she turned 18 or 19, that was less than 2 years ago in 2008
2008-2003 = 5 years

18-5 = 13 year old girl
 

Scion

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mustfirstregister said:
I think she was 16 when I first met her. But I was not attracted to her. I'm not attracted to her. I just wanna bed her. You guys still didn't answer my question. How long do you spend to actually bed a girl?
umm, so if your not attracted to her why the effort to sleep with her? And to answer your question, I only try with a girl for a couple of weeks before giving up. I don't wait YEARS for a girl (seriously, wtf is wrong with you?)
 

mustfirstregister

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I was pursuing other girls too. But sometimes you wanna go back to her because of the challenge to sleep with her. You will never understand you are too young to understand.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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