"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

Thrown off by Text message

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
Update: its been 6 days since, since then i still havent replied to that text she replied nor contacted her. So yesterday at around 5pm she texted me ( after 6 days) " Wyd tonight"..i reply back 10 min later with " whassup"..she never replied. WTF????????? What do you think?
She is wasting your time now just like you have been wasting hers. Stop doing stupid sh!t and then wondering why nothing is happening. If you want to bang her then bang her. If you dont then don't. Stop doing idiotic things like seeing if she wants to bang and then when she agrees going ghost and then wondering what happened like she is the one doing dumb sh!t instesd of you.

I mean you can't really be this dumb can you?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

guru1000

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
5,299
Reaction score
4,338
Part of the problem here is retardation, but in her last text "Wyd tonight," she was looking to hang out. You should have scheduled a specific time to meet up rather than the exceptional response of "whassup."
 

GrowingPains

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Messages
953
Reaction score
690
Age
30
What language is this in?
Dirty South.

OP you're being extra. You're playing games when you don't need to. Hold this L. Move on to the next one. Like marmel said, she's giving you a dose of your own medicine. Except she's doing it intentionally.

Next.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Bamaboi

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
84
Reaction score
15
Age
34
Dirty South.

OP you're being extra. You're playing games when you don't need to. Hold this L. Move on to the next one. Like marmel said, she's giving you a dose of your own medicine. Except she's doing it intentionally.

Next.
Why should i move on???
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

lamath

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
2,714
Reaction score
2,659
Age
45
Location
Canada
Update: its been 6 days since, since then i still havent replied to that text she replied nor contacted her. So yesterday at around 5pm she texted me ( after 6 days) " Wyd tonight"..i reply back 10 min later with " whassup"..she never replied. WTF????????? What do you think?
So many opportunity to misinterpret the other persons intention with that waiting before txting game.

I wonder how many time ppl dont get together because of stuff like this. IK that a women not anwsering a txt in a reasonable time frame is low interest, regardless if she is still asking me question It makes me lose interest.

If your busy and cant txt its ok, but when doing it on purpose it is disrespectful
A phone conversation would be way better imo.
 

Bamaboi

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
84
Reaction score
15
Age
34
So many opportunity to misinterpret the other persons intention with that waiting before txting game.

I wonder how many time ppl dont get together because of stuff like this. IK that a women not anwsering a txt in a reasonable time frame is low interest, regardless if she is still asking me question It makes me lose interest.

If your busy and cant txt its ok, but when doing it on purpose it is disrespectful
A phone conversation would be way better imo.
**Update**
Texted her today told her " Where you at im gone pull up trying to get something in motion , too much back n forth" ..we both have the same kind of phone and it showed she just "read" it and didnt reply. Wtf???

Since she texted me Tuesday she has been posting on facebook and went "Live" and havent replied back to none of my texts. **** this **** im doggin all females from here on out. Like why tf text me Tuesday asking what im doin tonight then when i reply you just "read" the message???? And only ready my message today..smh! Wtf??
 

Bamaboi

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
84
Reaction score
15
Age
34
Part of the problem here is retardation, but in her last text "Wyd tonight," she was looking to hang out. You should have scheduled a specific time to meet up rather than the exceptional response of "whassup."
**Update**
Texted her today told her " Where you at im gone pull up trying to get something in motion , too much back n forth" ..we both have the same kind of phone and it showed she just "read" it and didnt reply. Wtf???

Since she texted me Tuesday she has been posting on facebook and went "Live" and havent replied back to none of my texts. **** this **** im doggin all females from here on out. Like why tf text me Tuesday asking what im doin tonight then when i reply you just "read" the message???? And only ready my message today..smh! Wtf??
 

Bamaboi

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
84
Reaction score
15
Age
34
She is wasting your time now just like you have been wasting hers. Stop doing stupid sh!t and then wondering why nothing is happening. If you want to bang her then bang her. If you dont then don't. Stop doing idiotic things like seeing if she wants to bang and then when she agrees going ghost and then wondering what happened like she is the one doing dumb sh!t instesd of you.

I mean you can't really be this dumb can you?

**Update**
Texted her today told her " Where you at im gone pull up trying to get something in motion , too much back n forth" ..we both have the same kind of phone and it showed she just "read" it and didnt reply. Wtf???

Since she texted me Tuesday she has been posting on facebook and went "Live" and havent replied back to none of my texts. **** this **** im doggin all females from here on out. Like why tf text me Tuesday asking what im doin tonight then when i reply you just "read" the message???? And only ready my message today..smh! Wtf??
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

sazc

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 23, 2016
Messages
4,468
Reaction score
3,402
Chase her, she'll give in eventually, wear her down!
 

Bamaboi

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
84
Reaction score
15
Age
34
Totally sarcastic. This chick is over. Move on.
Why tf did she just text me Wednesday?? Im goin to call her phone man **** this ****. This **** got me heated man.
 

GrowingPains

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Messages
953
Reaction score
690
Age
30
Why tf did she just text me Wednesday?? Im goin to call her phone man **** this ****. This **** got me heated man.
Don't call her. You're gonna make yourself look real stupid.

Read this thread again. Understand what we're telling you bro.

YOU fvcked up. Not her. This has nothing to do with her being a woman. This has everything to do with you not being a man. There's nothing more for us to say to you.
 
Last edited:

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Top