"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Thoughts on "I don't kiss on the first date" girls?

Korrupt

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In my opinion if a girl rejects my kiss the date's immediately over and there's not gonna be a second unless she chases after me.

Thoughts?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DarkShade

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Tell her the first date is over and the second date is beginning right now
 

49au

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That's a really bad sign...

There has to be some kind of sexuality established, kissing on the first date is the absolute minimum.
 

Deadly_Ripped

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49au said:
That's a really bad sign...

There has to be some kind of sexuality established, kissing on the first date is the absolute minimum.
I agree with 49au. I've never had a really good date end with "I never kiss on the first date." I have, however, had really bad dates where the girl didn't want to kiss me or I didn't want to kiss her...

At this point in my life if a girl doesn't kiss on the first date then she's either not interested, too religious, or she's not sexually open-minded/comfortable enough for me to date her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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r0cky

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Wow. You really expect them to chase you? If she rejected your kiss its because she's not ready and you need to create more attraction. By ending the date all you're accomplishing is giving the more persistant guy a chance. And for what? because that scared little voice inside told you to leave? ("She rejected my kiss?! I'll show her!").

When you offer someone a glass of water, they're likely to reject it on the first offer, they'll probably accept it on the second, most people accept it on the third try. Everyone, even those who are not thirsty, will accept a glass of water on your fourth offer just to not give a bad impression.
Same thing applies here. Treat your kiss like a glass of water, she's the one that's winning, but at the same time, she probably doesn't want to appear like she really wants it.

Its all part of the game, and you can't win if you quit on your first failure.
 

r0cky

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BTW. 2 great comebacks to "i dont kiss on the first date":
"Thats ok, I dont kiss until the 10th date."
"I have anal on the first date".
 

escaleraroyal

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if she doesnt kiss you u should force her to kiss you and she will be submissive
 

Ace_Magnamus

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girls become the "I don't kiss on the first date girls" to they guys they have no interest or attraction for. they don't want to kiss them. on the previous date they were making out with the last guy.
 

r0cky

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Ace_Magnamus said:
girls become the "I don't kiss on the first date girls" to they guys they have no interest or attraction for. they don't want to kiss them. on the previous date they were making out with the last guy.
Not true. On average, girls will reject my first 2 even 3 attempts at kissing before we start making out. Even girls whom I've had sex with have rejected my kisses at the beginning.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ace_Magnamus

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r0cky said:
Not true. On average, girls will reject my first 2 even 3 attempts at kissing before we start making out. Even girls whom I've had sex with have rejected my kisses at the beginning.
What I said is true. A girl rejects a guy's kiss because she is not attracted to him or is not interested. That usually ends it for them. If some guys are able to get more dates they can like you say you did. most guys dont because I dated girls who were making out with me wouldnt kiss another date because they didnt want to because they werent interested in them. they also didn't get another date with them.
 
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