“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Thoughts on "early" drink dates?

BPH

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I'm gonna tag @Glassguy in this because I know he has a very similar MO.

I've got a date tonight with a girl who seems pretty interested...BUT...when I suggested we grab drinks at 10PM, she told me she's usually in bed by that time, and asked if we could do something earlier, like 8PM. She says she would like to be on her way home by 10PM because she wants to wake up for yoga in the morning.

Now I'm debating whether to bother going, and here's why...

To me, this communicates she has a set cutoff for how late the night could go, which tells me that even if we hit it off, it's probably not going to escalate very far. In my mind, if she wanted to, she would - as in she would be willing to stay out later and make an exception to her usual schedule, to see how well the night could go.

If I flipped the scenario and let's say my dream girl asked me out, but I had some sort of obligation, I would move my schedule around to accommodate it more easily, or make an exception to something that I do regularly, where I could just go at another time. Case in point, I wanted to visit my brother in New York on Friday, so I skipped my cardio at the gym to avoid the traffic, and I will be doing it today instead.

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I don't really want to waste my night on somebody who's telling me how it's going to end when I could instead just go out somewhere and see if I like anybody.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If I flipped the scenario and let's say my dream girl asked me out, but I had some sort of obligation, I would move my schedule around to accommodate it more easily, or make an exception to something that I do regularly, where I could just go at another time. Case in point, I wanted to visit my brother in New York on Friday, so I skipped my cardio at the gym to avoid the traffic, and I will be doing it today instead.
that’s because your a guy. women don’t think like that. especially when it’s comes to sexual matters. they’re quite stubborn about shi like that. even if they’re really really really attracted to you.

as for the girl in question. i happen to lay a girl like this last year. every time id try to arrange a meet up when i texted after 9pm, her notifications went on silence and she was already on her way to falling asleep (would text me back at 8am the next morning). this kept going on and on and i assumed it was because she wasn’t actually interested in meeting and was just wasting my time.so all i did was pick a day where i wouldn’t be in the morning. and had her meet me at 2pm. she agreed. came straight to my place and we fvcked.
 
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I have done drink dates starting at 7 or 8 many times, especially on non-weekend days.

Not really my thing to stay up super late, I'd rather get sleep and keep my health right.
 

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This is the problem with dating modern women. They all go to bed early, have early morning gym classes, do not drink much and are generally pretty structured.
 

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I don't really want to waste my night on somebody who's telling me how it's going to end
Decent point.

Almost have to tell her that without using those words.
 

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Does this situation and this woman have the same demeanor, or is it similar to how things went with your LR-100 or the girl from Arizona?


You might already have the answer to your situation based on your past experiences with them.

 

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@BPH did you meet on an app?

If so many women prefer an earlier time as they're not viewing it as a "date" per se, it's a first "meet" to determine vibe and chemistry.

If you're vibing and the in-person chemistry is there, you can always extend it.

Given this has happened to you before and it seems to be an issue, try and ease up a bit.

You've never even met the girl, again assuming you met on an app I don't know. Thinking about her ending her night with you is a bit presumptuous under the circumstances.

It places too much unnecessary pressure on something that should be light and fun.

Meet in person at a reasonable time and let things happen organically, do not overthink or have some sort of pre-set plan or expectation.

Again if you're vibing well, you (both) can always extend it.

TBH if it were me and a guy were making it such an issue, *I* wouid have declined.

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