"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
This whole forum in one sentence?
- Thread starter jebach123
- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
BraddH
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BeTheChange
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wifehunter
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
icantgetlaid
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ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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These guys say it all.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
1) make a positive impact to society
2) be emotionally, financially, mentally, and physically in control at all times
3) Do not supplicate with women
4) She is only along for the ride
Forum has never said don't care about girls or tell all girls to go to hell.
Serenity
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Let's be honest here, this has been the subject of very many threads. However there's not consensus about it on the forum, but a significant amount of members have expressed that opinion. At least about not giving a fvck.
My sentence: Don't be a doormat, take personal responsibility, make your life better and get to a point where life is generally enjoyable.
This forum focuses mostly on problems with women, but other major aspects of human life are also commonly discussed. I came here because I struggled with women, but my core issues wasn't really about women. My struggle with them was merely a symptom of other problems which affected my performance with them.
CuddleJunkie
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zekko
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I've never thought that IDGAF literally meant that you should never care about anyone. It's more like an attitude you should have when cold approaching women. If one rejects you, you shrug it off and don't give a fvck, go on to the next. Don't get focused on just one woman.
Even in a relationship, if she starts to act up, you have to be willing to walk if it starts to self destruct. You can't take an "I can't live without her" attitude. You have to be able to stand on your own feet, with or without her. She has to be an enhancement for your life, not your whole life. That doesn't mean that you literally don't care at all about her though.
That's how I take it anyway. I know there are guys here who probably take it more literally, like the guys who look up to psycopaths.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PantyWhisperer
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Who doesn't love a smelly hippie chick with tons of body hair and a willingness to do anything, I do mean anything. She shot Gerald Ford while Chucky was in prison, so Squeaky was good to go....LOL
Serenity
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I know that and I'm well aware that most other experienced members view it like that as well. You don't have to tell me this.
Still it's a common discussion on the forum and guys are often advised not to care about women. So many lesser experienced guys ends up completely wrecking it with women, because they interpret it as a trick. They think by ignoring her completely she'll magically come chasing like he was Brad Pitt or something.
I think the IDGAF attitude goes a bit far sometimes anyways, some guys really do literally not give a single fvck. Don't forget that this forum may attract psychopaths, the one's who've been unsuccessful and looks for harmful tactics. Which also is found on this forum.
zekko
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You are welcome to her, buddy. As for me, I think I'll take a pass.
I was just writing a general response to the forum, I wasn't directing it at you personally.
I do think that some posters here do take IDGAF literally, shoot some probably make it work for them lol. Although you are probably right, most are probably new posters who don't quite understand all the subtleties yet. I also agree that this forum probably attracts psycopaths, after all the seduction community is one of the few places where they are hero worshipped.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.