"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So basically how I understood so far.
Become the best version of yourself and learn the game while not giving a **** about girls.
That's everything this forum is trying to teach right?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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More or less.
 

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Discover the power, society doesn't want you to know.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ya ... basically any energy you might put into investing in a girl .. invest in self improvement instead ... then let them come to you.
 

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You are better and more important than any girl.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I think Forum 4 main points are;

1) make a positive impact to society
2) be emotionally, financially, mentally, and physically in control at all times
3) Do not supplicate with women
4) She is only along for the ride

Forum has never said don't care about girls or tell all girls to go to hell.
 

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Forum has never said don't care about girls or tell all girls to go to hell.
Let's be honest here, this has been the subject of very many threads. However there's not consensus about it on the forum, but a significant amount of members have expressed that opinion. At least about not giving a fvck.

My sentence: Don't be a doormat, take personal responsibility, make your life better and get to a point where life is generally enjoyable.

This forum focuses mostly on problems with women, but other major aspects of human life are also commonly discussed. I came here because I struggled with women, but my core issues wasn't really about women. My struggle with them was merely a symptom of other problems which affected my performance with them.
 
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Keep on pushing. You will fail, just keep pushing. One day, you will look back, and see how far you have come. Did that feel nice? Good. Now, keep on pushing.
 

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Let's be honest here, this has been the subject of very many threads. However there's not consensus about it on the forum, but a significant amount of members have expressed that opinion. At least about not giving a fvck.
I've never thought that IDGAF literally meant that you should never care about anyone. It's more like an attitude you should have when cold approaching women. If one rejects you, you shrug it off and don't give a fvck, go on to the next. Don't get focused on just one woman.

Even in a relationship, if she starts to act up, you have to be willing to walk if it starts to self destruct. You can't take an "I can't live without her" attitude. You have to be able to stand on your own feet, with or without her. She has to be an enhancement for your life, not your whole life. That doesn't mean that you literally don't care at all about her though.

That's how I take it anyway. I know there are guys here who probably take it more literally, like the guys who look up to psycopaths.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I guess if you're looking to pick up Squeaky Fromme, Manson would be a good guy to emulate.
 

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The main message I have taken from this forum is to improve yourself, for you.

That's not to say don't care about anyone else, just look after yourself first.
 

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I guess if you're looking to pick up Squeaky Fromme, Manson would be a good guy to emulate.
Who doesn't love a smelly hippie chick with tons of body hair and a willingness to do anything, I do mean anything. She shot Gerald Ford while Chucky was in prison, so Squeaky was good to go....LOL
 

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I've never thought that IDGAF literally meant that you should never care about anyone. It's more like an attitude you should have when cold approaching women. If one rejects you, you shrug it off and don't give a fvck, go on to the next. Don't get focused on just one woman.
I know that and I'm well aware that most other experienced members view it like that as well. You don't have to tell me this.

Still it's a common discussion on the forum and guys are often advised not to care about women. So many lesser experienced guys ends up completely wrecking it with women, because they interpret it as a trick. They think by ignoring her completely she'll magically come chasing like he was Brad Pitt or something.

I think the IDGAF attitude goes a bit far sometimes anyways, some guys really do literally not give a single fvck. Don't forget that this forum may attract psychopaths, the one's who've been unsuccessful and looks for harmful tactics. Which also is found on this forum.
 

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Who doesn't love a smelly hippie chick with tons of body hair and a willingness to do anything, I do mean anything. She shot Gerald Ford while Chucky was in prison, so Squeaky was good to go....LOL
You are welcome to her, buddy. As for me, I think I'll take a pass. ;)

I know that and I'm well aware that most other experienced members view it like that as well. You don't have to tell me this.
I was just writing a general response to the forum, I wasn't directing it at you personally.

I do think that some posters here do take IDGAF literally, shoot some probably make it work for them lol. Although you are probably right, most are probably new posters who don't quite understand all the subtleties yet. I also agree that this forum probably attracts psycopaths, after all the seduction community is one of the few places where they are hero worshipped.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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