"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Think i might have the dreaded oneitis

Le killeur

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Hey guys, just a quick problem to run by you. There's this chick at college who i have been seeing fairly regular and laying in bed with etc.

However the killer is i failed to kiss close and make the move, however everything else about my game has been pretty spot on (blame the inner afc). However on the last night of college before we left for holidays we were lay in bed and i made the move.

She responded by calling me out on saying we were friends etc and the neg's id been hitting her with but in a joking way. Anyway we makeout i suck her body etc but its like she's holding back on the sex. In the heat of the moment i would but i know i shouldnt as i shouldnt really have sex with her till i get checked out. Anyway we won't see each other for another 3 weeks as she had gone back to america, however i cant stop thinking about her and i'm unsure whether she will get back with her ex she recently broke up with, whether im the rebound or the guy she is using to get others jealous.

Anyway the crux of it is, is that i really wana fu@k her and im sure this oneitis will clear. However for the next 3 weeks should i keep contact at a minimum (just had an hour long video chat after a day - bad idea i know). This chick is pretty needy and flirtatious with alot of people. Should i go NC or what guys?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yep, NC is the answer. Enjoy your 3 weeks and keep yourself busy so you don't think about her. If she contacts you, respond positively but keep it short. No hour long afc-a-thons. Resume escalating when you see her again.
 

Boilermaker

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Sounds like this one is out the window already son.

Why don't you try and find a new one, or do something useful for these 3-weeks?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Bat

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Umm...what? When originally you said you lay in bed with her, I thought you were doing more laying in her but I come to find out you're doing more laying in her bed than her....

WTF...?! Stop wasting your time with this attention seeker. Go NC forever. Put her in that category BELOW "acquaintances"...and she will fight back for your attention but keep her at a ship length distance and IF an opportunity presents itself...which means that she shows up at your room half-drunk...then go for the kill.

Otherwise, it's a lost cause. Your first and final mistake was laying in bed with her and not putting it in her. I never sleep with a woman in the same bed I don't intend to slide my jimmy in unless she is related to me.
 

BigSmooth

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So I just banged some girl who just came back from England for the winter break and...

Oh wait...

Oops. Sorry bud.




But in all seriousness, you probably missed your chance at the kiss close. Or the moment y'all first laid in bed and you didn't make a move. I think it's time to move on.
 

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Le killeur said:
Hey guys, just a quick problem to run by you. There's this chick at college who i have been seeing fairly regular and laying in bed with etc.

However the killer is i failed to kiss close and make the move, however everything else about my game has been pretty spot on (blame the inner afc). However on the last night of college before we left for holidays we were lay in bed and i made the move.

She responded by calling me out on saying we were friends etc and the neg's id been hitting her with but in a joking way. Anyway we makeout i suck her body etc but its like she's holding back on the sex. In the heat of the moment i would but i know i shouldnt as i shouldnt really have sex with her till i get checked out. Anyway we won't see each other for another 3 weeks as she had gone back to america, however i cant stop thinking about her and i'm unsure whether she will get back with her ex she recently broke up with, whether im the rebound or the guy she is using to get others jealous.

Anyway the crux of it is, is that i really wana fu@k her and im sure this oneitis will clear. However for the next 3 weeks should i keep contact at a minimum (just had an hour long video chat after a day - bad idea i know). This chick is pretty needy and flirtatious with alot of people. Should i go NC or what guys?
I can recall the feeling. You see a girl that you don't see everyday. You put your little life to revolve around hers. Put her on the soap box. Just put away your ego my friend and it should be fairly easy. Remember the good times with her and remember she has the memory of an elephant. She will never forget you.
 

Le killeur

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Not gonna lie guys i think after christmas i will fu@k her and if she tries holding out on the sex again then i will. The problem is is that i sort of friendzoned her at the beginning as we are good friends.

Oh well, the thing i love about this site is the sheer harshness and bluntness of the answers, they hit hard and have an effect. I think this break will be put in pursuit of smashing random sloots and revising like a mofo for exams.

Also the reason she wouldnt smash is because she said i was a player and she was scared i was using her for sex
 

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Le killeur said:
Not gonna lie guys i think after christmas i will fu@k her and if she tries holding out on the sex again then i will. The problem is is that i sort of friendzoned her at the beginning as we are good friends.

Oh well, the thing i love about this site is the sheer harshness and bluntness of the answers, they hit hard and have an effect. I think this break will be put in pursuit of smashing random sloots and revising like a mofo for exams.

Also the reason she wouldnt smash is because she said i was a player and she was scared i was using her for sex
I once friend zone a girl like that. Her response was to get a ethnic boyfriend from cuba. She's been 4 years with the cuban guy. I'm sure he's a great guy. I only wonder if he figured out the 2012 doomsday prophecy for her.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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