"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Think i might have the dreaded oneitis

Le killeur

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Hey guys, just a quick problem to run by you. There's this chick at college who i have been seeing fairly regular and laying in bed with etc.

However the killer is i failed to kiss close and make the move, however everything else about my game has been pretty spot on (blame the inner afc). However on the last night of college before we left for holidays we were lay in bed and i made the move.

She responded by calling me out on saying we were friends etc and the neg's id been hitting her with but in a joking way. Anyway we makeout i suck her body etc but its like she's holding back on the sex. In the heat of the moment i would but i know i shouldnt as i shouldnt really have sex with her till i get checked out. Anyway we won't see each other for another 3 weeks as she had gone back to america, however i cant stop thinking about her and i'm unsure whether she will get back with her ex she recently broke up with, whether im the rebound or the guy she is using to get others jealous.

Anyway the crux of it is, is that i really wana fu@k her and im sure this oneitis will clear. However for the next 3 weeks should i keep contact at a minimum (just had an hour long video chat after a day - bad idea i know). This chick is pretty needy and flirtatious with alot of people. Should i go NC or what guys?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yep, NC is the answer. Enjoy your 3 weeks and keep yourself busy so you don't think about her. If she contacts you, respond positively but keep it short. No hour long afc-a-thons. Resume escalating when you see her again.
 

Boilermaker

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Sounds like this one is out the window already son.

Why don't you try and find a new one, or do something useful for these 3-weeks?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Bat

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Umm...what? When originally you said you lay in bed with her, I thought you were doing more laying in her but I come to find out you're doing more laying in her bed than her....

WTF...?! Stop wasting your time with this attention seeker. Go NC forever. Put her in that category BELOW "acquaintances"...and she will fight back for your attention but keep her at a ship length distance and IF an opportunity presents itself...which means that she shows up at your room half-drunk...then go for the kill.

Otherwise, it's a lost cause. Your first and final mistake was laying in bed with her and not putting it in her. I never sleep with a woman in the same bed I don't intend to slide my jimmy in unless she is related to me.
 

BigSmooth

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So I just banged some girl who just came back from England for the winter break and...

Oh wait...

Oops. Sorry bud.




But in all seriousness, you probably missed your chance at the kiss close. Or the moment y'all first laid in bed and you didn't make a move. I think it's time to move on.
 

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Le killeur said:
Hey guys, just a quick problem to run by you. There's this chick at college who i have been seeing fairly regular and laying in bed with etc.

However the killer is i failed to kiss close and make the move, however everything else about my game has been pretty spot on (blame the inner afc). However on the last night of college before we left for holidays we were lay in bed and i made the move.

She responded by calling me out on saying we were friends etc and the neg's id been hitting her with but in a joking way. Anyway we makeout i suck her body etc but its like she's holding back on the sex. In the heat of the moment i would but i know i shouldnt as i shouldnt really have sex with her till i get checked out. Anyway we won't see each other for another 3 weeks as she had gone back to america, however i cant stop thinking about her and i'm unsure whether she will get back with her ex she recently broke up with, whether im the rebound or the guy she is using to get others jealous.

Anyway the crux of it is, is that i really wana fu@k her and im sure this oneitis will clear. However for the next 3 weeks should i keep contact at a minimum (just had an hour long video chat after a day - bad idea i know). This chick is pretty needy and flirtatious with alot of people. Should i go NC or what guys?
I can recall the feeling. You see a girl that you don't see everyday. You put your little life to revolve around hers. Put her on the soap box. Just put away your ego my friend and it should be fairly easy. Remember the good times with her and remember she has the memory of an elephant. She will never forget you.
 

Le killeur

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Not gonna lie guys i think after christmas i will fu@k her and if she tries holding out on the sex again then i will. The problem is is that i sort of friendzoned her at the beginning as we are good friends.

Oh well, the thing i love about this site is the sheer harshness and bluntness of the answers, they hit hard and have an effect. I think this break will be put in pursuit of smashing random sloots and revising like a mofo for exams.

Also the reason she wouldnt smash is because she said i was a player and she was scared i was using her for sex
 

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Le killeur said:
Not gonna lie guys i think after christmas i will fu@k her and if she tries holding out on the sex again then i will. The problem is is that i sort of friendzoned her at the beginning as we are good friends.

Oh well, the thing i love about this site is the sheer harshness and bluntness of the answers, they hit hard and have an effect. I think this break will be put in pursuit of smashing random sloots and revising like a mofo for exams.

Also the reason she wouldnt smash is because she said i was a player and she was scared i was using her for sex
I once friend zone a girl like that. Her response was to get a ethnic boyfriend from cuba. She's been 4 years with the cuban guy. I'm sure he's a great guy. I only wonder if he figured out the 2012 doomsday prophecy for her.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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