TheMale's journey to the center of his balls...

[TheMale]

Yo, I'll add to this thread later...

For now, I'm going to commit to the DJ bootcamp for 8 weeks.
What I'm going after is the woman I want to commit to for the rest of my life.

The single guy freedom is a delusion.
I had lived that life for many years, and there's nothing for me there besides loneliness, misery, and faggotry.

I had lived the red pill life, and it's the ****tiest life ever.

I'm a true believer that a man should devote to his wife and kids and grow old with them.

So, I'm not looking to get laid (I'll only do it with the woman I marry, only after marriage) and not looking to stack women and tell the world I slept with 100's of women.

My goal is to get comfortable doing the uncomfortable (I'm after the challenge itself to grow as a man) and talk to as many women as I can until I find my future wife.

Follow along for the lessons I'll share along the way, and let me know if you want to join me so we keep each other accountable.

See ya.

 

[plumber]

thats a great thing to do. remember that how you see the world and your lens is not always how other see it. the women you meet and the men around them do not have the same goal for you as you have for you. if you succeed it will be due to your own efforts. you can find a woman like that.. but you can not find a woman who see the world like you do. must learn what such a woman wants, and its not exactly the same as you do. for example she might want status and safety and she has her own libido..., and that in her lens is different than it is for you. at the same time keep eyes open, the best woman for you can be one of the ones that wants to get laid with you before your ready..... its not bad to get with women, its bad to build your life around that.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The single guy freedom is a delusion.
I had lived that life for many years, and there's nothing for me there besides loneliness, misery, and faggotry.

I had lived the red pill life, and it's the ****tiest life ever.

I'm a true believer that a man should devote to his wife and kids and grow old with them.

So, I'm not looking to get laid (I'll only do it with the woman I marry, only after marriage) and not looking to stack women and tell the world I slept with 100's of women.

Sounds like you are swinging from one extreme to another. Are you bipolar by any chance?

The idea of waiting until marriage to have sex is preposterous in this day and age. First to fall, most mainstream women would not be down with your plan. Maybe if you convert to islam or become Amish or something it would be a different story. However, a typical American or European woman would find it unusual and would likely assume you are gay or a weirdo.

Also, what happens if you get married and then find out that you're not sexually compatible with your wife? Are you going to file for divorce immediately or resign to a life of sexual frustration? If you've lived "the red pill life", surely you've been with women who just didn't turn you on in bed, even if there was nothing wrong with them physically.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Yo, I'll add to this thread later...

For now, I'm going to commit to the DJ bootcamp for 8 weeks.
What I'm going after is the woman I want to commit to for the rest of my life.

The single guy freedom is a delusion.
I had lived that life for many years, and there's nothing for me there besides loneliness, misery, and faggotry.

I had lived the red pill life, and it's the ****tiest life ever.

I'm a true believer that a man should devote to his wife and kids and grow old with them.

So, I'm not looking to get laid (I'll only do it with the woman I marry, only after marriage) and not looking to stack women and tell the world I slept with 100's of women.

My goal is to get comfortable doing the uncomfortable (I'm after the challenge itself to grow as a man) and talk to as many women as I can until I find my future wife.

Follow along for the lessons I'll share along the way, and let me know if you want to join me so we keep each other accountable.

See ya.

The mistake is thinking you'll be able to know that prior to sleeping with her.

Guarantee if you marry a woman who is not sexually compatible with you you'll regret it and be unhappy with the marriage.

Unfortunately, there is no way to know this without finding out prior.

This would be like buying a used car without test driving it and then getting mad if it turned out to be a lemon.

İf you think it's uncomfortable to not have sex prior to marriage, you'll find out it's a lot more uncomfortable having a dead bedroom for the rest of your life.

 

[TheMale]

The mistake is thinking you'll be able to know that prior to sleeping with her.

Guarantee if you marry a woman who is not sexually compatible with you you'll regret it and be unhappy with the marriage.

Unfortunately, there is no way to know this without finding out prior.

This would be like buying a used car without test driving it and then getting mad if it turned out to be a lemon.

İf you think it's uncomfortable to not have sex prior to marriage, you'll find out it's a lot more uncomfortable having a dead bedroom for the rest of your life.

Guarantee based on what?

In my experience, women I wasn't compatible in bed with were the ones I wasn't compatible with outside of bed.
I was blinded and only thought with my d!ck and how I'll be able to tell my friends I ****ed, yet another girl.

Conversely, women I had a deep connection with, and wanted to be devoted to, sex was absolutely brilliant, even if physically they weren't the most attractive women I had been with.

Also, the fact that I don't want to have sex before marriage doesn't mean I'm also not going to have intimate moments with her. it doesn't have to be sexual (full on sex or foreplay), it can also be kissing, holding her, etc.

At the end of the day, the best indicator is how I feel with her and whether I desire her.

 

[TheMale]

Sounds like you are swinging from one extreme to another. Are you bipolar by any chance?

The idea of waiting until marriage to have sex is preposterous in this day and age. First to fall, most mainstream women would not be down with your plan. Maybe if you convert to islam or become Amish or something it would be a different story. However, a typical American or European woman would find it unusual and would likely assume you are gay or a weirdo.

Also, what happens if you get married and then find out that you're not sexually compatible with your wife? Are you going to file for divorce immediately or resign to a life of sexual frustration? If you've lived "the red pill life", surely you've been with women who just didn't turn you on in bed, even if there was nothing wrong with them physically.

Nah! I matured and realized there's no happiness in that life.

I've been doing the deep work for the past 3 years: figuring out what I want out of life, embodying the man I'm trying to become, and simply leading by example.

That's also why I'm not looking for a mainstream woman.
I don't need a promiscuous woman in my life. Been there, done that...

Nowadays, I'm living a life where my values and my standards are the most important things.

So if a woman finds it unusual, she's simply not the right woman for me.
The one I'm looking for is more conservative, had done (or doing) the deep inner work to figure out what she wants, what she doesn't want, etc. and she appreciates that.

Let me challenge that for a second, How do you define compatibility?

Also, I find it interesting that you tell me I'm swinging from one extreme to the other, yet you are telling me that it's either divorce or life of frustration. I think that there's a lot that could be done in between those two poles if a woman doesn't turn you on in bed.

 

[TheMale]

thats a great thing to do. remember that how you see the world and your lens is not always how other see it. the women you meet and the men around them do not have the same goal for you as you have for you. if you succeed it will be due to your own efforts. you can find a woman like that.. but you can not find a woman who see the world like you do. must learn what such a woman wants, and its not exactly the same as you do. for example she might want status and safety and she has her own libido..., and that in her lens is different than it is for you. at the same time keep eyes open, the best woman for you can be one of the ones that wants to get laid with you before your ready..... its not bad to get with women, its bad to build your life around that.

I agree.
My lens is my lens.

And the way I see relationships is basically a patriarchy as in the man is the leader of the household. This does not mean the wife needs to be financially dependent, that she should be subservient or that all men are equipped to lead a family.

So in a sense, I'm inviting her into my world.
If she can't appreciate the fact that I prioritize her and building a deep connection with her above having sex, that's all good...

... I'm not the right one for her.

also, the woman I'm going after is a woman that value things that are similar to what I value. doesn't have to be a perfect match, but close enough to understand we are going in the same direction.

One last thing, The last real relationship I had was with a woman that wanted us to have sex. I caved, but looking back, the only reason she wanted it was because she wanted to feel desired and was self conscious about me not wanting to have sex with her (she got cheated on in the past). So I'm not sure that libido point you made is objectively true to women or more of response to them being emotional and self conscious.

TBD...

 

[TheMale]

Sharing some random thoughts from the thread here:

I'm still oscillating between not having sex before marriage and having sex closer to marriage (once we are committed and heading towards marriage). I actually leaning towards the after marriage camp because the kind of woman I'm going after is a little more traditional and conservative rather than mainstream and promiscuous.

Also, having sex absolutely pollute your objectivity when it comes to choosing a woman you'll spend the rest of your life with. I've been in many relationships that were bad for me, but stayed because of sex. In hindsight, I can say it was bad because I'm no longer thinking with my d!ck.

That being said, I'm also thinking about having sex closer to marriage because it might not be a big of a deal if we are already heading toward that direction.

I'm not sure about it, but I'd rather have a hard "after marriage" rule, then play by the ear and shift my standards because this or that woman wants it.

Part of becoming a man is to set the standard and protecting it. Not caving when it's uncomfortable.

I'll see.

The more I'll be in the field, the more lesson I'll learn, and the more I'll share about how my perspective is changing or strengthening.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Guarantee based on what?

In my experience, women I wasn't compatible in bed with were the ones I wasn't compatible with outside of bed.
I was blinded and only thought with my d!ck and how I'll be able to tell my friends I ****ed, yet another girl.

Conversely, women I had a deep connection with, and wanted to be devoted to, sex was absolutely brilliant, even if physically they weren't the most attractive women I had been with.

Also, the fact that I don't want to have sex before marriage doesn't mean I'm also not going to have intimate moments with her. it doesn't have to be sexual (full on sex or foreplay), it can also be kissing, holding her, etc.

At the end of the day, the best indicator is how I feel with her and whether I desire her.

You are really naive if you think that's the case and lack life experience then.

 

[Bokanovsky]

That's also why I'm not looking for a mainstream woman.
I don't need a promiscuous woman in my life. Been there, done that...

Nowadays, I'm living a life where my values and my standards are the most important things.

So if a woman finds it unusual, she's simply not the right woman for me.
The one I'm looking for is more conservative, had done (or doing) the deep inner work to figure out what she wants, what she doesn't want, etc. and she appreciates that.

And where are you going to find a non-mainstream woman (outside of niche communities, like the Amish and hardcore muslims, of which you don't seem to be a part of)? Conservative women are just as promiscuous as liberal ones. Unlike men, who adopt political ideologies as a reflection of their philosophical beliefs, women adopt them to fit in. A woman from North Dakota is naturally going to be more conservative than a woman from NYC, but that doesn't mean that she's going to be less promiscuous. Women are women everywhere.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Yo, I'll add to this thread later...

For now, I'm going to commit to the DJ bootcamp for 8 weeks.
What I'm going after is the woman I want to commit to for the rest of my life.

The single guy freedom is a delusion.
I had lived that life for many years, and there's nothing for me there besides loneliness, misery, and faggotry.

I had lived the red pill life, and it's the ****tiest life ever.

I'm a true believer that a man should devote to his wife and kids and grow old with them.

So, I'm not looking to get laid (I'll only do it with the woman I marry, only after marriage) and not looking to stack women and tell the world I slept with 100's of women.

My goal is to get comfortable doing the uncomfortable (I'm after the challenge itself to grow as a man) and talk to as many women as I can until I find my future wife.

Follow along for the lessons I'll share along the way, and let me know if you want to join me so we keep each other accountable.

See ya.

I can understand some stuff you say but: How old are you? Are you expecting to find a virgin or a woman with a low body count? A lot of members have failed to do that or cope about it

 

[zekko]

I had lived that life for many years, and there's nothing for me there besides loneliness, misery, and faggotry.

Faggotry?

I don't have any kids myself, never felt the urge. I think that fatherhood likely gives you the most ultimate satisfying life as a man though. You might sacrifice a lot for it though.

 

[TheMale]

I can understand some stuff you say but: How old are you? Are you expecting to find a virgin or a woman with a low body count? A lot of members have failed to do that or cope about it

I'm in my 30's, looking for a woman who's <30 y/o.
I'd love to get a virgin, but I'm also not a hypocrite (I've had a lot of sexual experiences and I know that the older she is the more men she'd been with). So I'm willing to go for a low body count.

I think there's something to be said about a woman who slept around and a woman who's actually respecting herself and having more trad values. She might have had sex with guys she was committed to but not as a way to "express her sexuality freely" or whatever horsesh!t some of them make up.

Why do you think members have failed?

 

[TheMale]

Faggotry?

I don't have any kids myself, never felt the urge. I think that fatherhood likely gives you the most ultimate satisfying life as a man though. You might sacrifice a lot for it though.

Man, I can't wait to be a father. I'm willing to sacrifice everything for that.
Why do you think you've never felt the urge for that?

 

[TheMale]

And where are you going to find a non-mainstream woman (outside of niche communities, like the Amish and hardcore muslims, of which you don't seem to be a part of)? Conservative women are just as promiscuous as liberal ones. Unlike men, who adopt political ideologies as a reflection of their philosophical beliefs, women adopt them to fit in. A woman from North Dakota is naturally going to be more conservative than a woman from NYC, but that doesn't mean that she's going to be less promiscuous. Women are women everywhere.

Women are only the reflection of the men in their lives.
Sh!tty dad, sh!tty boyfriends/husbands.

That doesn't mean she shouldn't take any accountability, she definitely should...
But at the end of the day, if you yourself are not a man worth following, she will do all kinds of ****ery (including a daughter sleeping around, a wife cheating, a girlfriend disrespecting you, etc. while still calling themselves conservative).

Anyways, I've met some non mainstream girls, and I either fvcked it up because I bought into that red pill ideology, or because there was something I wasn't willing to deal with (crazy family, chaotic history, etc.).

Also, I don't live in the US, so women here, as slutty and retarded as they might be, are a little different.

One thing to keep in mind...
I'm not looking for the average woman.
I'm looking for that top 1%.

 

[TheMale]

You are really naive if you think that's the case and lack life experience then.

Maybe...

 

[craider]

Honestly this reads kinda like a female LARPing as a male incel on these forums ... "TheMale" rhymes with female, coincidentally.

Anyway assuming you're actually a dude: what's worth following in a man that idolizes pvssy and puts it on a pedestal? If you want a trad wife you better be ready to d!ck her down ASAP...

 

[TheMale]

Honestly this reads kinda like a female LARPing as a male incel on these forums ... "TheMale" rhymes with female, coincidentally.

Anyway assuming you're actually a dude: what's worth following in a man that idolizes pvssy and puts it on a pedestal? If you want a trad wife you better be ready to d!ck her down ASAP...

Then don't follow.
Case closed.

 

[plumber]

I agree.
My lens is my lens.

And the way I see relationships is basically a patriarchy as in the man is the leader of the household. This does not mean the wife needs to be financially dependent, that she should be subservient or that all men are equipped to lead a family.

So in a sense, I'm inviting her into my world.
If she can't appreciate the fact that I prioritize her and building a deep connection with her above having sex, that's all good...

... I'm not the right one for her.

also, the woman I'm going after is a woman that value things that are similar to what I value. doesn't have to be a perfect match, but close enough to understand we are going in the same direction.

One last thing, The last real relationship I had was with a woman that wanted us to have sex. I caved, but looking back, the only reason she wanted it was because she wanted to feel desired and was self conscious about me not wanting to have sex with her (she got cheated on in the past). So I'm not sure that libido point you made is objectively true to women or more of response to them being emotional and self conscious.

TBD...

there are women that want to have sex with you or want to please you so much that they know that is the way. either case is good. there are women also that know you want sex and know its the tool to keep your interest. many men end up with the second type. these are the men that try to fix there relationship. sometimes they can move into a dominant position but never into type one. if you ever had the first type you will know. the difference is huge. sex is the evolutionary glue. its the entire point of the relationship. sure there are lots of other stuff around it. but its the point and the single thing that drives. you still should be kind, smart, all sorts of good things. if its not the point, then your not in a type one situation. anyone that has been, wants that.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Naive definitely seems an appropriate word. The most sensible thing I've seen is that you're going to commit to the DJ boot camp. Hopefully that is true.

I can understand the almost any guy is going to want to go into something while needing to prove "this isn't his first rodeo." Put that ego aside. It'll backfire with being honest at your attempts going through the bootcamp. Accept your current state honestly right where you are and realize that this is exactly why you aren't where you want to be. Only then can you know what you need to do to improve.

I've probably said this to the point of annoying everyone, but I'll go ahead. Many people seem to seek validation for mediocrity or to say "I already know all about x, y, z; I just need to work on ____." Then, as they continue to post things on here that are akin to spam and missing the most basic of concepts prove to everyone that they really don't know the FIRST thing about x, y, z that they've supposedly mastered.