all good, my man!
don't know who winston wu is, but david d... such a scam. haha
I remember recording that guided meditation he wrote in his double your dating book and I would listen to it whenever I could. *facepalm*
Did you do it as well?
I did that ONE TIME and thought it was dumb. I also didn't do the 'he man b____ slap' in front of my mirror either! LMAO. I remember being on the email listserve and respondents constantly thanking him for recommending they slap themselves! hahaha!
You're not missing out on Winston Wu at all. He's definitely not someone I'd recommend people take advice from. He goes down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole pretty far. He was really popular with "passport bros" before they were even called that and likely contributed to many trying out that route. If you're feeling particularly in need of a laugh, you should look up some of his videos. I don't know why I ever thought listening to him was a good idea. It lasted about a year. Sure, some people who become expats find love elsewhere. Whoopty do. But that comes with challenges one would think would be obvious. Most try to bring them to the US and are genuinely shocked when they break up. Women not born in the US have a choice TOO?! DANG IT! haha
*BTW, nowadays, I'm a lot more discerning with who I'm listening to for advice.
david d, that's not it. haha*
I would say the same for myself. David D isn't it, either one of the David D's. There's Deangelo and David Dieda who wrote "Way of the superior man" which is whack in it's own category. Although Deangelo had some good advice with using humor and showcasing a hobby that is interesting to her and where the two of you have to touch. But his approach isn't going to work for everyone. You've got to figure that out for yourself and the only way to do that is to quit being a fraidy cat and to face rejection and accept that you'll have to meet a LOT of people before finding what you want and what works and what doesn't with the type of women you like to be around.
*As for redpill, I don't see it as a toolbox. I see it as a philosophy. Some of what it teaches might be applicable and even good, but most of it is harmful.*
I disagree strongly. I think most of what is in the SPOTLIGHT involving the redpill is harmful. Take that crockumentary by Louis Theroux (sp?) for instance. The title uses the word "Manosphere" which I think is more of an official tag than being 'red pilled.' The matrix is to thank for this, ultimately. The two of those get tossed interchangeably. The people he cherry picked to make an average 'red piller' seem as idiotic and far from any common man as possible. SANE men who are hyper successful AND relatable to regular guys in redpill circles were avoided purposely to further push the desired narrative. "Redpill" is just a name for something that isn't believing everything you're told, especially when that something is evidently not true.
If accepting reality is harmful, I guess we can stop taking vaccines, stop using seatbelts, go pet cobras and rattlesnakes and hug hippos. "Just ask her out and treat her nice" might be well meaning advice, but it's bad advice all the same. That doesn't mean you walk around like a puffed up arrogant jerk that has to challenge every man and make sure he is overtly s3xual with every woman he finds 'hot' either. I hear more about people that have stopped sulking and moping about how they never get a date become at least confident to talk to women and make them laugh! That's a great start, and harmful? How? I hear more about people who were on the brink of ending it all because of one woman rejected them or divorced them and chose not to because they discovered other men have gone through this and GOT BETTER. Is being able to tell another man "Hey, I've been there. Now I'm here. You can be too." harmful? I mean, POSSIBLY if he's got a 512-TR in every color and is 6'8" and blows whatever is in the average guys retirement account for fun at age 28.
*To me the repill movement is exactly like the feminism movement. both extreme poles reacting to one another.
The answer is ofter in the middle. and I'm not saying I want women in power. Me, I want my wife to be a stay at home mom.*
Nothing wrong with wanting a stay at home mom, I suppose. It's going to be a lot harder to find that, though. 1.) The number of women willing to do this isn't in the majority and 2.) the woman in question who IS willing to do this must also be willing to accept your income level MINUS the costs that come with having these children and her being able to live fairly comfortably. Which isn't unreasonable, but again, difficult with the socio economic reality.
The red pill, if truly a "movement" I suppose could be considered that, but there are extremists in every bunch. I disagree with you that it is an equal and opposite of feminism to a point. There are no established "leaders" of said red pill movement, no collection of funds, no campaigns, no meetings or even an organized structure or hierarchy etc... There IS a "men's rights movement" though. And they do show up and advocate for votes that support child custody legislation, hauntingly true child support cases, etc... I think there are several other official organizations as well.
What I see is a bunch of people who vilify others with views that don't align with a majority. That majority is too confused to admit they don't know which way is up. Just look at all these weight loss pills and people who say they "can't lose weight." Probably many of them are also people who "just can't get a date." Shouldn't everyone understand that you simply must burn more calories than you consume? Not eat junk and do hard stuff and sweat? I think they SHOULD but they DON'T.
So they try to find answers for why they can't and if it's "women=bad" or "big pharma" or "They're putting all this extra stuff in our food" then it works for them as an easy out. I'm akin to thinking that's complete clownshyte and if you see the redpill to some similar effect, I'm pretty sure I agree with you more than is communicated. I think the same amount of people who will believe putting that "special forces ab device" around their waist will give them abs are the same people that will say HS tickey tockey (whatever the heck) sneako and Myron are the best of the redpill... In my honest opinion they aren't even red pill. They're very loud and trending figures that throw out rage bait to people hungry for validation in placing external blame.
It's my opinion sneako and HS offer NO good advice and that Myron has good career, finance and fitness advice, but probably not the best relationship advice. Getting dates and getting laid? MAYBE. But I've heard both him AND fresh state "Don't lead with money, bro" and in another video where they record themselves running game in Miami saying things like "Yeah, we got an awesome apartment" or "Yeah, I actually have two lamborghinis." I'm pretty sure they weren't using the skills they learned going through don juan boot camp, it's coming to them now due to their success. Which is fine for them. More power to them. But that's not the reality for most people.
I am curious about this one! Do you remember a guy named Tom Leykis? Miss that guy. He's especially hilarious in dealing with women who are super angry and yell at him on his radio show. I wonder if anyone would have considered him "red pill?" The way he unabashedly shared his political views might make most say no. That's another thing people seem to jump to. Is that religions or politics are involved in 'redpill.' Sure, there might be a certain majority that go one way, but this is stuff that is congruent with reality. Women and men do things together when they like each other. Whoda thunk? Wow. I can vote both ways and it doesn't stop the pebble I throw into the air from dinging me in the head? Maybe if I pray before I throw it? Aw, crap. Got dinged in the head...
*However, any radical movement with extreme views are a reaction to the movement that came before it. and as such, a reactionary movement is not better than the previous one. it just seems like it when you are the one side of the equation that benefits from it.*
I'll agree 100% with that notion, but I hardly think that a generalized statement such as "Men and women are different", "Men and women are not blank slate equals", "Women default to emotion, men default to reason", "We are better together than we are apart" is hardly indicative of an extremist view. Two Drs would sound very red pill and extremist, but they are neither. One being Dr Gad Saad and the other being Jordan Peterson. I can however say that if men can't state a preference in women without catching hell (there seems to be less of this than there was ten years ago) what is extreme again? Just comment on a photo with a woman who has a nose ring (that doesn't actually look good at all) what you honestly think about it and see what happens.
