"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The "Zero Eye Contact" opener

Demonpenz

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I am ususally acting like I am reading a tablet.

Demonpenz: Are you excited
Girl: *Looks up* for what?
Demonpenz: Your in the presence of greatness!
Girl: Oh really?
Demonpenz: Demonpenz shows her a picture of him dunking a basketball

*SEX CLOSE IN STARBUCKS!*
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bump, because the method is field-tested and proven to work effectively.
 

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Excellent and I use this a lot with a cell phone. When they think you should be having EC with them but instead reading texts it fries the hamster.
 

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That's right, it's only an opener for getting around her b!tch shield. It completely obliterates the shield for enough time to establish communication.
 

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I actually don't really care for this. It strikes me as rather contrived and full of mental masturbation. I don't care at all for the idea of "I'm so above you that I don't need to look at you" and find it to just be going way overboard with the "be the prize" concept.

There's no point. You're opening her. She knows you're hitting on her, especially if she's attractive. Why are you talking to her instead of the hundreds of other people around? And in a cold approach you're going to have to close. Meaning you must show interest eventually. Qualifying is very important in a cold approach, but the cold, hard truth about cold approaching is that oftentimes you don't have enough time to do that given the situation. You're on your way somewhere, she's gotta be somewhere, she's at work and has to get back to her customers, you guys are outside and it's freezing, etc. It's just not going to make sense if you're all "I'm completely above you" and then "What's your phone number."

I cold approach almost at least once every day. I'll give this a fair shot. Atom, there's probably more to this than I'm reading into, and I'm sure I'd get a better picture if I saw you do it in person. But based on what I've read here, I really dislike this idea.



EDIT: Well, just read through the thread again, I can see it working for a seasoned man who is very familiar with celebrities and the way they act. I think I'm way too friendly and earnest for this sort of opener to be congruent with my personality.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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actually ignoring or not paying attention to a hottie always worked for me, they are not use to it, and it seems like they find a way to get my attention if they are interested.
 
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