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The man is pure ****ing genius.

He disputes the whole manosphere and pickup likely due to the creepy nature it tends to hold. Not to mention, the sort of socially inept, weirdos, low testosterone, needy, beta, incel, etc it tends to attract and inhabit.

Peterson goes onto recognise the genius at work. It corresponds with his line of work in psychology by exposure to the stuff that precipitates fear. Mention of fifty approaches and by 49, the level to which one has of fear subsided to a large degree.

After a decade +/- of cold approach pickup, on a good night, I am running through the building, flame thrower, and guns blazing. Gift for gab. Million dollar mouth piece. Spitting fire. Pulling. E bragging thereafter. On a off night, it's going through the motions. You can but it feels forced. As in, you aren't into it (for whatever reason) and your outcome is as you would expect, less than spectacular. Another day at the office and you chalk it up to another victory by appearance alone.


There is of course the counter balance of pickup and mirror exposure to getting baeees. That being, seeing female nature as it is, not how you wish it were, and your real world view needing adjustment along with self. Peterson points out that, if the vast majority hold a specific position and opinion of a man, there's likely work to be done. I concur. I would add more to the notion that, there is a better chance of increasing the probability of success by putting in the work. 99.9999999999% won't or they'll half step. They will run to the finish line, to the touch line but not score the TD. To each their own.

There's a reason for why RSDTyler and James Marshall push meditation. Sure, it's an up sell but, this sort of stuff and ego exposure to female nature is not without consequences. I mean, a week of pickup is more then most guys will do in ten lives. Association of one's self-concept simply on a woman's acceptance or lack thereof is not going to end well.


The most incredible thing about pulling is the cyclical nature of the male female dynamics and synergy of it all. It is like, yes, I pulled her but, she pulled me too with her femininity and submissiveness. The emphasis Peterson makes on mother nature taking its toll on man. The sleeping beauty tale describes that of the unconsciousness of femininity if left in a echo chamber of stupidity (SJWs, feminism, single mom's, etc) is lost. The same can be said of man, red pill rage or mgtow, and the unconscious.

In the words of Jon Locke, "suffering is nature's way of strengthening."
 

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If he's anything like Corey Wayne then inform him; Spaz says = fvck you, lying piece of crap who preys on broken men to make some money...

Also he's welcome 2 debate me anytime if he disagrees.
 
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I watched the video. What would you say to the recommendation of approaching fifty women @Spaz?
What is wrong with this approach to a man fixing himself?
I do not support MGTOW and the way they demonize the sexual market place and recommend that men swear off women. Instead of engaging the world.
PUA tactics to me are the wrong model as well because it doesn’t handle the real problem in a man. It can get him layed but doesn’t really improve his life and make him a better man.
 
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I've not seen any of his video's but I've seen 2 of Corey Wayne's YouTube videos after threads upon threads of guys here glorifying him.

The 1st one came off as sleazy motherfvcking conman and the 2nd video confirmed it.

Was wondering if it's the same with this fella..
 
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I've not seen any of his video's but I've seen 2 of Corey Wayne's YouTube videos after threads upon threads of guys here glorifying him.

The 1st one came off as sleazy motherfvcking conman and the 2nd video confirmed it.

Was wondering if it's the same with this fella..
Jordan Peterson is a professor of psychology in Canada who is under attack by the feminine imperative and socialist demagoguery of liberal professors crushing men and forwarding women and all the “genders” movements.
 

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Jordan Peterson is a professor of psychology in Canada who is under attack by the feminine imperative and socialist demagoguery of liberal professors crushing men and forwarding women and all the “genders” movements.
I just Google-d him, seems he's influenced by the famous Carl Jung.

Ranger, post 1 of his YouTube link here that you think is relevant, I'll watch it and give my opinion.
 
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I just Google-d him, seems he's influenced by the famous Carl Jung.

Ranger, post 1 of his YouTube link here that you think is relevant, I'll watch it and give my opinion.
I don’t know if it is relevant to my model. It is an interesting short video in itself.
He said that what men are against is the internal fear of women, which I believe is the feminine programming in men. He has the position that it is a biological internal hinderance to men. A sort of fragile, frail disposition that he said can overcome with more approaches over time.
I’m just more interested it your take on how a man overcomes certain things. I have the words but you have the experience from your upbringing.
 

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I don’t know if it is relevant to my model. It is an interesting short video in itself.
He said that what men are against is the internal fear of women, which I believe is the feminine programming in men. He has the position that it is a biological internal hinderance to men. A sort of fragile, frail disposition that he said can overcome with more approaches over time.
I’m just more interested it your take on how a man overcomes certain things. I have the words but you have the experience from your upbringing.
He's right. He's also correct with the approaches.

I however would advise men to start off with simple dominance/confidance building exercises - holding eye contact with everyone they come into contact, when they walk down the street, in their house, in the shops, everywhere, don't look down - look directly into the eyes of everyone he comes across.

Hold eye contact until people (strangers) respond ..

Observe women's reactions towards u holding eye contact with them as you pass by; most will be shy, some flirt back, some will be amazed that you'd hold on for so long, etc etc. You'll soon learn the power you truly hold as a man.

However you'd might hv a harder time holding eye contact with males but practice it more with males. As it is there's less of male to male eye contact as it's a dominance issue.

If you come across a naturally confident and dominant man, he will return gaze and lock on, he'll takes it as a challenge, and its easily neutralised by nodding - acknowledging him.

Most men won't hold prolonged eye contact, make sure they waver 1st before you.

And that's when people r in ur frame.
 

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Solid video as is most of Jordan Peterson's material. His main focus being personal responsibility, which is absolutely important this day and age.

He basically reiterates the importance being the best man possible. "If a thousand women dislike you, your the problem." I like how he calls out the PUA community, bit says they do get some things right like the 50 approaches.

@Ranger . Read DJ boot camp. It's a good guide which builds up to 50 approaches and includes most of what @Spaz is mentioning.
 

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Well then from the way you guys described him, he deserves further investigation.

@Roober , if he has touched on similar topics that I raised, can I have the link to that ?

I've often thought that my views were uniquely odd as it goes against what's being preached here or against the popular narratives prevalent nowadays.
 

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If he's anything like Corey Wayne then inform him; Spaz says = fvck you, lying piece of crap who preys on broken men to make some money...

Also he's welcome 2 debate me anytime if he disagrees.
He's nothing like Corey Wayne. He's a psychologist that evaluates people often using stories as analogies. It's a 7 minute video. Give it a try and judge him for yourself.
 

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He's nothing like Corey Wayne. He's a psychologist that evaluates people often using stories as analogies. It's a 7 minute video. Give it a try and judge him for yourself.
Our strength is not in our similarities but our differences.

Carrying the same objectives our differences acts as different strengths.

I will watch his videos.
 

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Well then from the way you guys described him, he deserves further investigation.

@Roober , if he has touched on similar topics that I raised, can I have the link to that ?

I've often thought that my views were uniquely odd as it goes against what's being preached here or against the popular narratives prevalent nowadays.
Hes not a pickup guy or focused on getting women or anything like that. He tends to get roped in to all sorts of topics though. Hes a clinical psychologist that was trusted into the spotlight when he stood against a college push for forced speech legislation.

He is heavily against identity politics (ie feminism,etc) and has what I see as many valid points about how people behave and how the world actually works. I like the fact that he opposes almost everything that we see today and many of the ideas men struggle with today. While his target audience isnt necessarily men, he has noticed how many young men are struggling today in life.

I listened to a podcast with him and Dr Oz recently. I think it gives a good overarching view of his viewpoint. His points against feminism and the radical left are ridiculously hard to dispute because they are heavily based on science and research. And his beliefs are against almost all prevalent beliefs these days, and likely what many people believe but are unable to articulate.
 
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@Ranger . Read DJ boot camp. It's a good guide which builds up to 50 approaches and includes most of what @Spaz is mentioning.
Yeah I’m going to do it for the fun. I don’t really care about getting a woman. There’s some other things I will do as well. Dismissals etc.
 
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I listened to a podcast with him and Dr Oz recently. I think it gives a good overarching view of his viewpoint. His points against feminism and the radical left are ridiculously hard to dispute because they are heavily based on science and research. And his beliefs are against almost all prevalent beliefs these days, and likely what many people believe but are unable to articulate.
I listened to one similar. He’s not well supported by his psychologist peers as they are just as blue pilled chumps as the common society.
He acknowledges the existence sociopaths but throws out all that other garbage.
He knows the world is upside down and has fully proven that men are being attacked viciously.
 

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He's nothing like Corey Wayne. He's a psychologist that evaluates people often using stories as analogies. It's a 7 minute video. Give it a try and judge him for yourself.
Talk Corey Wayne when he puts out a infield. Similarly to rollo, a good coach is one thing but actually threading the needle is another. I've read his book and saw his video. I think he is what Doc love is for older men. In 2018, without infield it is difficult to decipher who is fraud(in) and not. Then again, Justin Wayne is the Goat of fraud paying women and hooked. Hilarious actually lol
 

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Any man who has had decent number of women will know CW is a fraud.

I'm willing to bet he gets laid by paying women to spread their legs and has always been dumped by his LTR woman 1st.

Anyhow I've watched Jordan Peterson YouTube video. Only 1 so far. He's legit. Doesn't come off as a conman like CW. I'll watch more when I have the time, the man has some real life experiences to share.
 

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This is one big therapy session.

At least he's being real
 

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I've not seen any of his video's but I've seen 2 of Corey Wayne's YouTube videos after threads upon threads of guys here glorifying him.

The 1st one came off as sleazy motherfvcking conman and the 2nd video confirmed it.

Was wondering if it's the same with this fella..
Corey Wayne preaches. Till infield, did not happen.
 

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His literal advice is to let your GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE leave you and fvck other men and play it cool so they come back to you lol. Its actually the worst possible advice to give in any situation in this game. I cant think of worse, honestly.
Reeks of cuck. There is no worse game. Women comeback after being a *** dumpster.

Terrible advice if what you said is true about Corey Wayne.

Guys like him are similar to Rollo. Obviously rollo is better but, both are coaches. They preach. I've read rollos books and it's bang on but, he's not a player nor a playboy and or a pua. He's married lol he's following the beaten path of white picket fence allocating resources to woman who has control over money plus sex. His advice is money but he's quick to call out mgtow, puas, rsd and deem them purple pulled but, he's married.

You wut mate?


Free thinking goes a long way. I find his info useful but he's got blind spots. It's self evident in his rhetoric but playing house. His wife could easily cuck him and divorce rape.

Finally, I enjoy his material so, I hope that never happens but he needs to chill the ****kkk out on the calls out.


Anybody dare wager whether or not he wifed up epiphany phase? For all the posturing, it be pretty telling.

The RMG is great but many seem butt hurt. Bitter as ****kkk. I find Donovan the least bent of the panel. He's been transparent about the **** he went through. Rich is bent out of shape but open about his past. Rollo seems hell bent but he's not transparent nor open.


Whatever the **** traumatised him into TRP likely was dark as ****kkk kk hence his rational male blog, books, and podcasts. Were the beneficiary of whatever set him off.

I await book 4 impatiently.
 
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