Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
THis is great advice -MR_PERFECT said:I completely disagree. A woman is not going to suddenly become closer to you because she feels her job is done with the kids. What will happen is she will put the children first, not out of obligation, but because she prefers them to you. When they are teenagers, guess what? She will still prefer them to you. By that time, your relationship will be disjointed and never get back on track. When they are adults, guess what happens? She calls the adult children. She confides in them. She wants to do things with them. At this point, you pay the bills and escort her somewhere if needed, that's all you'll be good for at that point.
Does that apply to a situation in which she has children from a previous marriage?jophil28 said:Rule # 1 for married woman for a successful marriage - Spouse first, children second, her family next, then her friends etc.
IN THAT ORDER !
watch for the other red flags. it they are there, that's a situation I would want no part of.reset said:What about having men as roomates?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Well first of all it wouldn't be "her child" it would be "our child". I'm not down with single moms (ick!). Second of all I also married her to get the child (**** the status)... no matter what other reasons our genes may have deluded us into believing, makin' da babies is the reason people have been getting together since sexual reproduction first evolved.MR_PERFECT said:Here's the correct answer to this question: You and your child are both hanging from a cliff. Your wife, the love of your life, only has time to save one of you, which one does she save? The correct answer from your point of view is the child, but your wife should want to save you over the child. You should always be the most important person in her life, no matter what! A woman that values her child over you is a woman that married you to get the child and the status.
Actually, many of us women consider keeping our backs against the wall/viewing the room as the "safety" seat because we are able to get a "feel" for unpredictable situations/drunkards entering that might bother us - it is so we aren't caught off guard. I yield that seat once I know the guy I am with can handle himself, and/or a jerk approaching.persistent exaction said:Here's a little "tell" for you guys who are dating right now. The next time you go to a restaurant, and you get a table where one seat faces the open room, and one seat faces the wall, walk in behind your date and see where she sits. Do this a few times and observe what she does. My guess is invariably they take the seat that faces the room. I jokingly call this the "single's" chair. It's where you can make eye contact with loads of people. Do this a few times and just take note of her behavior. Then, one day just casually tell her that you would like to sit there. If she objects or throws a hissy fit, you may have a real live histrionic on your hands. Mix it up the next few times you go out to get a sense of how she reacts to "sharing." This can be done just getting coffee or a sitting in a number of places. If she is okay with you mixing it up, then you likely have a woman who is truly into you. If she insists on always taking the "single's" seat, then you likely have trouble brewing.
i agree with this. i think a lot of men don't realize just how neurotic many women are about their safety.LovelyLady said:Actually, many of us women consider keeping our backs against the wall/viewing the room as the "safety" seat because we are able to get a "feel" for unpredictable situations/drunkards entering that might bother us - it is so we aren't caught off guard. I yield that seat once I know the guy I am with can handle himself, and/or a jerk approaching.
LovelyLady said:Actually, many of us women consider keeping our backs against the wall/viewing the room as the "safety" seat because we are able to get a "feel" for unpredictable situations/drunkards entering that might bother us - it is so we aren't caught off guard. I yield that seat once I know the guy I am with can handle himself, and/or a jerk approaching.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
KontrollerX said:I wouldn't say thats necessarily a good test to determine HPD for a woman you just started seeing persistent.
HPD's ensnare their victims by being overly giving and doing everything you want for the first few weeks/months.
I guess it could be a good test for an HPD thats losing interest in you but also it could work for any woman HPD or normal thats losing interest in you lol.
If you just want a FB or a casual woman to date then her other priorities are pretty much irrelevant...However, if you are in an LTR or a marriage (or engaged) then she and you SHOULD be very clear that 'the relationship' is the "main event" in both your lives.Ever onward said:Does that apply to a situation in which she has children from a previous marriage?
I have never once met any woman who would ever consider putting a guy first so I've given up on the notion. Now you say that's how the way things should be? I wish.
I agree. When last comes to last, women are here to produce children. Not take care of men. If women fail in this one duty, the human race will become extinct. Remember, if she puts YOU ahead of her kids, she'll put some other jerk ahead of YOURS.Latinoman said:If a woman has little children and she puts her man ABOVE those little children...THAT is unnatural and on itself a red flag.
I would never put any woman over any child of mine.
That being said...if a woman puts her husband above adult children...that's a different story. And many women do that.
Here is a RED flag: A man that expects a woman to put him above her little children.
It screams insecurity.
A man that gets with a woman with small children is doing that under the understanding that that woman should put the priority on the small kids. And rightfully so. That's why I don't get into relationships with women with small children.
It is NOT a "red flag". She is simply doing what is natural.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
There are about 5 red flags rolled into 1 with this!!reset said:What about having men as roomates?
THat is womanthink , it is girly anxiety , it is female fearfulness at it's silliest.persistent exaction said:Your child is yours forever. Your man might disappear on you.
That would be a deal breaker for me.logic1 said:There are about 5 red flags rolled into 1 with this!!
As another poster stated. I would want no part of this.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.