Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
The Ultimate Red Flag List
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Well I consider never being married before a green flag too. But you won't find too many good looking women in their late 20's/early 30's that never been married that don't have very good reasons why. They're usually not very interesting, attractive and they think no guy is good enough. But the truth is no guy wanted to get serious or marry them for good reason.joekerr31 said:
There's exceptions to every red flag of course. And I'm a little biased because I don't think there's very many worthwhile women over 25 to begin with.
slitherjef
Senior Don Juan
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
MR_PERFECT
Senior Don Juan
ketostix said:
I'm now seeing someone that fits this description - she's over 25, since her long-term fiancé and her split up 5 years ago, she hasn't had a relationship last more than 3 months, and he was an alcoholic. Should I be worried?
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
There has to be a reason for why her relationships end at the 3 month mark.MR_PERFECT said:
jophil28
Master Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
ketostix said:
That is retarded. You are over 26, why have you never been married? Could it be there is someone out there that hasn't for the exact reason you haven't? And that you two are destined for each other... eh?
No. And I'm not going to explain it (again) least of all to a girl. This whole forum contains information why it would be red flag. It's retarded that you have a forum like this one and you'd assume women who are on it read it, yet they still act like well women and post the most ridiculous things.iqqi said:
MR_PERFECT
Senior Don Juan
I don't think being 25 and not being married is a problem. During our times, it's a safe bet to marry a woman that is over 25 and has been in a few relationships, so that by the time she gets to you, she'll know what she wants.ketostix said:
MR_PERFECT said:
What I was saying was a girl in her late 20's and early 30's, and maybe a little older, that hasn't been married by then (or at least gotten very close to it at least once) is a red flag because there's few women that old and that far past their prime that are attractive and desirable that wouldn't have been. It jives with my experience. Women like that are usually perpetually single for good reason. No one wanted to get serious with them, or maybe she's just a serial dater, which is really worse than a woman who's been in a LTR or married.
I just used 25 as cut off date, but it's definitely somewhere in her late 20's. I said it was a red flag, not a total dealbreaker. And of course there's a few exceptions, not many, to any red flag. I don't really think there's many worthwhile women over 25 to begin with.
The fact that a few people would disagree with this, is really just wishful thinking on their part and evidence that they know it's a red flag.
MR_PERFECT
Senior Don Juan
But would you ever really know for sure which is which? She could be picky and settles on you, or she can have learned from the past and hid the red flags.ketostix said:
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Luthor Rex
Master Don Juan
MEN AND WOMEN AREN'T THE SAME!iqqi said:
That's why the 'double-standard' isn't a double-standard regarding sex.
Even feminists recognize the truth of this: that's why they gave women are given the unilateral right to terminate a man's child. um.. er...
If women were judged by the same standards as men, most of ya'll would be in prison!
penkitten
Master Don Juan
the children are all we own outright in this world -roseanne conner to some jerk on the roseanne show .jophil28 said:
jophil28
Master Don Juan
The notion that women "own " their children is misguided and idiotic. In its pure sense, the word "own" confers upon the "owner" the right to treat or dispose of an object in any way that the "owner" see fit. Women do not morally have this right (nor do fathers ). Your parenthood confers upon you the RESPONSIBILITY to be the steward of a child's development in the broadest possible way. Parents and women in particular are NOT entitled to believe that they "own" any part of a child's life. You are the child's mentor, counselor, teacher, and provider of love and nurturance..not it's possessor.penkitten said:
Roseanne Conner is just ... she is just being the usual Roseanne.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
which is why that quote was funnyjophil28 said:
- drinks scotch
- drink anything in excess
- tells you she moved to town for REHAB
- jokingly calls herself a slvt (or anything negative)
- loves team sports
- has an unnatural love for animals
- doesn't clean the house at all (or maybe once per year)
- yells out your name (like she would a dog) to get your attention in a public place
- likes giving high fives
- wants to remain in steady contact with her ex
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.