"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Truth Has To Be Told About Fat Men

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I hope this thread isn't too old to post in, but I really had a question to ask about this: aren't there "mind tricks" and such that a fat (even obese) guy can use to get a HB to feel sexual feelings for him, when ordinarily she would NEVER feel sexual toward such an overweight guy? I mean, this site is more than "make something of your life, be a winner" isn't it? Isn't it also about getting around perceptions that HB's may have about you, whether they be accurate or not? And if you're fat you're fat, so that perception on her part is usually going to be accurate. I know there's lots more reasons to lose weight besides to get women, health being at the top. But this is more of a philosophical question than anything I guess. "Make something of your life, be a winner" isn't exactly seduction. Don't the Ross Jeffries types teach guys how to pull HB's regardless of how ugly/fat/poor they are?
 
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i have had friends who were the chubby and nice guys or the chubby funny guys. when they lost weight and got in shape they turned into super ****heads and are super aggresive with women. they don't spend nearly as much effort being nice or trying to make people laugh as they did when they were chubby. looks and fitness do matter. you may tell yourself that you don't care but deep down you have to. being in shape opens up a whole new world of hobbies and activities that can bring you tremendous pleasure. once you are no longer repulsively overweight then your charm and character and dominance can really get you laid.

everything matters. getting in shape is one of the easiest personal transformations. developing your personality and game takes a lot more focus and discipline.
 
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Warrior74 said:
Personally. When I went from 285 to 190, I got a lot more attention and a lot more sex. Also my confidence went up loads. It can't hurt to lose weight. its good for your health, for your confidence, for your life. There is no down side at all. There are several downsides to staying fat though. For the big guys out there...think about it.
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Also worth mentioning, is that there is an excellent Health & Fitness section for anyone willing to do something about it.
 
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