"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The Spider

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Heres the truth: You eithier got it or you dont. If you arent getting a lot of women by age 17 or 18, its never gonna get better, no matter what. Its a sad thing but its the truth trust me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Spider said:
Heres the truth: You eithier got it or you dont. If you arent getting a lot of women by age 17 or 18, its never gonna get better, no matter what. Its a sad thing but its the truth trust me.
well I don't really believe the idea that if you aren't good with women by 17-18 you won't improve. But usually there is something about guys that don't get women that will always keep them at the bottom.
 

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Scion said:
well I don't really believe the idea that if you aren't good with women by 17-18 you won't improve. But usually there is something about guys that don't get women that will always keep them at the bottom.
You know, theres a lot of truth to that, maybe im saying a little young. no question though if not by 22 then there really is no hope and thats a stone cold fact.
 

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Up until the age of 19 I never had any female friends, held hands with a girls, and, needless to say, was virgin. I'm 26 years old now. Over the past 7 years I've had several one-night stands and a few girlfriends. So one really can make a comeback after a dismal start. You're future life successes aren't predicated upon earlier life failures.
 

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And it's precisely this kind of defeatist attitude that is preventing a lot of guys from having success with women. Hell, it's preventing guys from having success in a lot of areas in their lives. If you've already concluded that you can't succeed, you won't.

Do you honestly believe that it's impossible to learn new things and to change the person you are after the age of 17-18 or 22? If you do, I feel very sorry for you because you must have a very pessimistic outlook on life.

I was absolutely pathetic with the ladies. Until I was 22, I didn't even have female friends. The only female friends I hung out with were my friends' girlfriends. It was a rare thing for me to have a conversation with a girl and it was a big deal.

I turned 25 recently, and no I'm not fvcking like a rock star. But I do regularly get pvssy these days. I'm still not where I want to be...not by a long shot. But I am WAY WAY better than where I was before.

And there were times when I felt hopeless. I looked around and a lot of guys having success with the ladies. I thought "what the fvck is wrong with me!?" I have made every single AFC mistake. I suffered through a bout of severe oneitis.

But all these things made me stronger and made me a better person. Nothing in life that is worthwhile comes without struggle. I agree that if you're 22, and you suck with women, it's not going to be easy to improve yourself. But it can happen if you put in the effort.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If you think about people who are highly skilled in a certain area, like music or athletics, they tend to start at a young age. Like Tiger Woods and golf, for instance. When you're younger your whole body and mind is built to develop, so getting an early start is a huge advantage. So I can see a point to the OP's post.

But I don't agree that it can't get any better, especially if you draw the line at 18. A lot of guys don't hit their prime until later (remember girls mature earlier). And you can always improve at something, even if you don't reach rock star levels. But yeah, I imagine getting an early start is a big advantage.
 

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This just isn't true. There are countless testimonials of men who will talk about how they never had any success with women until they were older. If any young men are on this site, don't buy this crap. As a general rule men start out have poor skills with women and improve as they get older provided they have experience with different women.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This is just a stupid claim. I was virgin until I was 18, almost 19, and now I am 21, soon to be 22, and I have been a couple of dozen girls, and the past 4 months has been like half of them.

So no, what the thread starter says is not true.
 

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Why do morons who have no fvcking clue what they're talking about start advice threads or threads like "the truth about ____"?

Go crawl back in your cave, 'tard.
 

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Thread Fail.
 

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Please don't feed the troll.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Please delete this thread, newbies will actually come to this forum, read this bullsh!t, and believe it.
 

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The Spider said:
Heres the truth: You eithier got it or you dont. If you arent getting a lot of women by age 17 or 18, its never gonna get better, no matter what. Its a sad thing but its the truth trust me.
False!

things can change for the better or for worse...

you can make changes or you can get lucky and have thing change around you
 

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zekko said:
If you think about people who are highly skilled in a certain area, like music or athletics, they tend to start at a young age. Like Tiger Woods and golf, for instance. When you're younger your whole body and mind is built to develop, so getting an early start is a huge advantage. So I can see a point to the OP's post.

But I don't agree that it can't get any better, especially if you draw the line at 18. A lot of guys don't hit their prime until later (remember girls mature earlier). And you can always improve at something, even if you don't reach rock star levels. But yeah, I imagine getting an early start is a big advantage.
Agreed. If you want to be the best in the world at something, you probably should start out at an early age. If you pick up the violin at the age of 22, you're not going to be as good as someone who's been playing since the age of 4.

But you don't have to phenomenal to be successful with women. In fact just a few improvements can dramatically improve your success with the ladies.
 

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Lets not forget that this is for Americans only. 95% of you are and will forever be stuck in America! So, yes it is over for you after 19. Unless you want single mothers and 30 plus year old women. America is the land of homosexuals and 35 year old women who pretend they are still sexy! The rest of us got up and left. Keep the party going guys!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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