The toll of having sex with many women

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yup, average chicks are always very.. appreciative. Fvck me better, play zero games, chase me for hooking up again...

Smashing low status women, single moms or low hanging fruit isn't much to brag about. I rather fappppp

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Smashing low status women, single moms or low hanging fruit isn't much to brag about. I rather fappppp

Its not about bragging its about getting puzzy. If your a bigdave fapping for 18 months no puzzy you better get whats available.

 

[rber]

Smashing low status women, single moms or low hanging fruit isn't much to brag about. I rather fappppp

I don't think it's much to brag about either, I was simply answering mrgoodstuff's question (which I thought was directed at me).
It's still more fun than fapping though if you ask me, well, usually.

Did they do more things for you? Did they treat you more like a king? Did they fvck you better? Did they suck you better? Did they play less games? Were they more available?

Regardless, Ranger did have a good point about this:

I would rather have an enthusiastic 6 or 7.
As long as she isn’t ugly or a walrus I won’t go there. They just need to take care of themselves. That says a lot to me. If they don’t? No dice.

Smashing "low status women" is often a lot more enjoyable than smashing high status women. I'd still stick with high status / quality for relationships though for plenty of other reasons.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I don't think it's much to brag about either, I was simply answering mrgoodstuff's question (which I thought was directed at me).
It's still more fun than fapping though if you ask me, well, usually.



Regardless, Ranger did have a good point about this:



Smashing "low status women" is often a lot more enjoyable than smashing high status women. I'd still stick with high status / quality for relationships though for plenty of other reasons.

No. No its not.

Low hanging fruit are *****s 100x. Being single mom and getting her cheque, being a leech on social assistance welfare state is her aspiration. Skiing down cawi mountain is her highest ambition.

You cannot pull stunners, top form smv (ie 18-23) crunching land whales. Its the same cuck fest narrative feminism pedals to women. They can be a career woman, run up student loans, sloot gonna Sloot, and play House after hitting the wall.

This rational inflates ego junkies that is woman in 2018 regardless of bulking season or how many bastard kids + kill count she had.

You cannot pull 18 and cratered smv at the same time. Stupid ****s play that game, knock up some hag, and get divorce rape by some whale.

Shift out of this paradigm. Aim higher.

 

[rber]

No. No its not.

Low hanging fruit are *****s 100x. Being single mom and getting her cheque, being a leech on social assistance welfare state is her aspiration. Skiing down cawi mountain is her highest ambition.

You cannot pull stunners, top form smv (ie 18-23) crunching land whales. Its the same cuck fest narrative feminism pedals to women. They can be a career woman, run up student loans, sloot gonna Sloot, and play House after hitting the wall.

This rational inflates ego junkies that is woman in 2018 regardless of bulking season or how many bastard kids + kill count she had.

You cannot pull 18 and cratered smv at the same time. Stupid ****s play that game, knock up some hag, and get divorce rape by some whale.

Shift out of this paradigm. Aim higher.

Lower status are often far more appreciative and therefore can end up being much better sex than stunners who take it for granted.

By low status I mean 6-7, land whales are something like 2.
Regardless, I agree you can't pull stunners at the same time you're settling for lower smv, it sort of contradicts, takes a different kind of game.

When I focus more on business and other aspects of my life - I go for easy pu$$y, I don't have the will to invest the time it takes into getting more, just for the ego boost it'll give me to pull a stunner. In that aspect just "getting by" is fine sometimes in my opinion. Sacrificing the now for a better future.

It has nothing to do with the feminine narrative, I couldn't care less about that and I'm not part of that game, it's about getting pu$$y and how much I'm willing to invest into that at different times of my life.

On the long run I'm aiming as high as one can possibly aim.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Lower status are often far more appreciative and therefore can end up being much better sex than stunners who take it for granted.

By low status I mean 6-7, land whales are something like 2.
Regardless, I agree you can't pull stunners at the same time you're settling for lower smv, it sort of contradicts, takes a different kind of game.

When I focus more on business and other aspects of my life - I go for easy pu$$y, I don't have the will to invest the time it takes into getting more, just for the ego boost it'll give me to pull a stunner. In that aspect just "getting by" is fine sometimes in my opinion. Sacrificing the now for a better future.

It has nothing to do with the feminine narrative, I couldn't care less about that and I'm not part of that game, it's about getting pu$$y and how much I'm willing to invest into that at different times of my life.

On the long run I'm aiming as high as one can possibly aim.

But dont you find a stunner is less respectful of your time? So it ends up degrading you. Where as the 6-7 is more appreciative and actually wants to work for you, "appreciating" your value upwards because she adds to you?

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Lower status are often far more appreciative and therefore can end up being much better sex than stunners who take it for granted.

By low status I mean 6-7, land whales are something like 2.
Regardless, I agree you can't pull stunners at the same time you're settling for lower smv, it sort of contradicts, takes a different kind of game.

When I focus more on business and other aspects of my life - I go for easy pu$$y, I don't have the will to invest the time it takes into getting more, just for the ego boost it'll give me to pull a stunner. In that aspect just "getting by" is fine sometimes in my opinion. Sacrificing the now for a better future.

It has nothing to do with the feminine narrative, I couldn't care less about that and I'm not part of that game, it's about getting pu$$y and how much I'm willing to invest into that at different times of my life.

On the long run I'm aiming as high as one can possibly aim.

The blind spot being, if you were to build a multi million dollar biz from the ground up, you roll the dice with amateur hour women. Its counter productive.

I wouldn't call a 7 low hanging fruit. You can find a 9/10 IG ass pics ***** who is a commodity and is cratering smv. Quick to victimhood. It goes beyond sex appeal.

Low hanging fruit are cratered smv. No active gym membership is a one way ticket to plummeted smv. Feminist, SJW, combative women, girl power, buys into career woman + pissing away her best years is low quality.

I have no time for it.

Glad you have a focus on biz, on something alternative to women. For all this inner game jazz, its a excuse to up sell digital products. Making a million dollar biz from the ground up is inner game. It is a portrayal of your psyche. Said man will have zero time for female logic assuming he has game, a spine, doesn't need a estrogen blocker, is red pill aware, and spins plates/has options.

 

[rber]

But dont you find a stunner is less respectful of your time? So it ends up degrading you. Where as the 6-7 is more appreciative and actually wants to work for you, "appreciating" your value upwards because she adds to you?

Definitely, I think the same thing. I think the end-goal in a way is to be that high value that a 9-10 will be as respectful of your time as a 6-7.

The blind spot being, if you were to build a multi million dollar biz from the ground up, you roll the dice with amateur hour women. Its counter productive.

I didn't understand that part, what do you mean?

For all this inner game jazz, its a excuse to up sell digital products. Making a million dollar biz from the ground up is inner game. It is a portrayal of your psyche. Said man will have zero time for female logic assuming he has game, a spine, doesn't need a estrogen blocker, is red pill aware, and spins plates/has options.

In a sense, "red pill awareness" IS inner game. It's really about understanding the rules of the game before playing it.

Sure, you could be somewhat successful with women without consciously delving into their logic, but I believe it'll require more trial and error on your part instead of learning from other people's experiences.
Having a spine and multiple plates doesn't automatically make your life amazing, there's so much more to it than that.

As you said - making a successful business from the ground up definitely takes a lot of inner game, on multiple levels.
However, there are people who seem to have successfully built such businesses with the wrong mindset, and as a result they're sad and their life sucks. (e.g. hectic life doing something they don't like, with no time to enjoy their money, no family, friends, etc)

I think the same could be true for getting to a point where you consistently nail stunners while having the wrong mindset, you'd technically be successful with women, but at what cost?
You could nail stunners being a moronic bum with a sad and monotonous life where you don't fully enjoy women beyond sex, and you could nail stunners being on top of the world and having a happy and rich life. The difference? Inner game and understanding the rules of the whole game before playing - I think it applies to everything in life.

I might be quoting someone from RSD without realizing it, but I think inner game should be the main focus. Good outer game is ideally the byproduct of good inner game + field experience - be that in pickup, business, or anything else.

 

[jaymbrs]

I'm now reading "The Rational Male - Positive Masculinity".

Here's a quote:

"It is vitally important because a woman’s capacity to bond with a man is reduced with every new sexual partner. This is a statistical dynamic; the more lovers a woman has prior to her marriage is proportional to her odds of infidelity and divorce."

This is written from the Alpha Widow angle, which I get.

Isn't the same possibly true for men as well for different / similar reasons?

The more women I'm with the less I can go back to lower quality, the more judgemental and picky I become.
Whenever I'm with an average chick, I always compare her to the hot chicks I was with that left an impression on me.
I wonder if hypergamy could apply to men as well, I do feel "alpha widowed" in a sense. (alpha being a hot babe)

Regardless, would you really consider it "fair" to aim to f*ck as many women as you can, while possibly vetting a woman for the exact same thing?

I can understand the reasoning, but still it doesn't seem like a fair expectation to me - unless you're going to say who gives a f*ck about fair, to which I just might agree.

100% agree. The bad lays are more common now because of the amazing sex I've had. It almost becomes an expectation or a requirement. And if they're not met, I get turned off.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

100% agree. The bad lays are more common now because of the amazing sex I've had. It almost becomes an expectation or a requirement. And if they're not met, I get turned off.

Do you agree a good lay is more likely if shes way into you. Your probably a SMV higher? The bad lays your more into her, pursuing she may be "hot: and you put her SMV higher? She may be a dead lay or lazy. The lower SMV "works harder" in comparison?

 

[jaymbrs]

Do you agree a good lay is more likely if shes way into you. Your probably a SMV higher? The bad lays your more into her, pursuing she may be "hot: and you put her SMV higher? She may be a dead lay or lazy. The lower SMV "works harder" in comparison?

I think for the most part there's some correlation there. But the best lay I've ever had was with a girl who did a lot of coke. Liked it up the ass and was a squirter. She was also hot. HB 9. But she had issues too.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

I think for the most part there's some correlation there. But the best lay I've ever had was with a girl who did a lot of coke. Liked it up the ass and was a squirter. She was also hot. HB 9. But she had issues too.

Had the same experience. She was hot as fvck, just gorgeous. I would get a hotel room downtown for us. She loved grey goose & blow. And loved it up the ass. The sex was amazing. It was this awesome time where everything came together like the perfect storm. And, like yours, she was a little crazy too.

-Augustus-

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think for the most part there's some correlation there. But the best lay I've ever had was with a girl who did a lot of coke. Liked it up the ass and was a squirter. She was also hot. HB 9. But she had issues too.

You mustve had the coke. Thats hot for them.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Definitely, I think the same thing. I think the end-goal in a way is to be that high value that a 9-10 will be as respectful of your time as a 6-7.

After years of pickup, cold approach, I'm talking chain gunning hitting on baeeees for years, its all arbitrary.

I didn't understand that part, what do you mean?

Build a biz but roll the dice on law hanging fruit?

Note, the sec you shoot a load, YOU HAVE ZERO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. Women have access to current and future earnings. Can sperm Jack you or accuse you falsely.

Its a blind spot. Its the reason why guys like Dan bilzarin will crunch IG ass models or escorts but, women pimp out their best years delusional as ****kkkk mistaking men wanting to smash for being special. The hottest girl today cannot compete with tomorrow's barely legal starlet.

In a sense, "red pill awareness" IS inner game. It's really about understanding the rules of the game before playing it.

IMHO, 99% of the pua and red pill is spam.

Sure, you could be somewhat successful with women without consciously delving into their logic, but I believe it'll require more trial and error on your part instead of learning from other people's experiences.
Having a spine and multiple plates doesn't automatically make your life amazing, there's so much more to it than that.

Look at threads here. 99% of the time, guys are chasing cratered smv. Nearing 30.

They got opinions on pickup but their options are *****s or single moms.

These are not options. Late teens early twenties. Top form smv. Not the equivalent of the vehicle you push off a ****ing cliff.

Chad's booty call most men call wife.

As you said - making a successful business from the ground up definitely takes a lot of inner game, on multiple levels.
However, there are people who seem to have successfully built such businesses with the wrong mindset, and as a result they're sad and their life sucks. (e.g. hectic life doing something they don't like, with no time to enjoy their money, no family, friends, etc)

Elon Musk could smash nothing but top form smv but he's blue pill as ****kkkk. Will get divorce raped again.

Guess what? Most men will.

I think the same could be true for getting to a point where you consistently nail stunners while having the wrong mindset, you'd technically be successful with women, but at what cost?

You're talking to a guy who will Eiffel tower a slut then go get more baeeees.

Cucks will marry the woman I ran a train on.

I might be quoting someone from RSD without realizing it, but I think inner game should be the main focus. Good outer game is ideally the byproduct of good inner game + field experience - be that in pickup, business, or anything else.

I care about blowing on a woman's face. I care about ****ing crushing it.

I don't care about phaggotry. Talks of feelers or any nonsense about self help.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I think for the most part there's some correlation there. But the best lay I've ever had was with a girl who did a lot of coke. Liked it up the ass and was a squirter. She was also hot. HB 9. But she had issues too.

Pic of said *****?

 

[rber]

Build a biz but roll the dice on law hanging fruit?

Note, the sec you shoot a load, YOU HAVE ZERO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. Women have access to current and future earnings. Can sperm Jack you or accuse you falsely.

Its a blind spot. Its the reason why guys like Dan bilzarin will crunch IG ass models or escorts but, women pimp out their best years delusional as ****kkkk mistaking men wanting to smash for being special. The hottest girl today cannot compete with tomorrow's barely legal starlet.

I agree, it's a scary blind spot. It's rich people's problems though - problems I wouldn't mind having.
With some effort and thought I believe the risks could be substantially mitigated.
Once I get to a certain level of success I'll stop rolling the dice and it'll stop being low hanging fruit - I'll ideally have more resources to go after more with far less effort. Until I get to that point, I doubt anyone will try to steal my sperm.

IMHO, 99% of the pua and red pill is spam.

99% of most things is spam, 99% of people are spam. High quality is hard to come by. That remaining 1% though is plenty. There's a lot of nonsense out there I agree, but with some experience and knowledge you should be easily able to tell it apart.

I'm not sure however that our definition of spam is the same in that case.

Look at threads here. 99% of the time, guys are chasing cratered smv. Nearing 30.

They got opinions on pickup but their options are *****s or single moms.

These are not options. Late teens early twenties. Top form smv. Not the equivalent of the vehicle you push off a ****ing cliff.

Chad's booty call most men call wife.

That'd depend on what you're looking for in a girl. Young top form smv is fun to smash, but that's about it. Rarely it'd be more than that.

I myself am not sure about how to go about it long term, just spraying young top form smv just isn't very fulfilling albeit obviously fun, as weird as it might sound. Connection is a very important factor, which I'm not convinced a young top form smv could properly provide - exceptions aside.

Elon Musk could smash nothing but top form smv but he's blue pill as ****kkkk. Will get divorce raped again.

Guess what? Most men will.

Yup. He's just that high value in our society that he automatically gets top form smv even though he's blue pill as f*ck. On the business side and other life aspects he's as red pill as it can get though. The funny thing is he could get divorce raped 100 times and he'd still have enough left for a few lifetimes of wealth, it's one of those rare cases. I'd probably switch places with his blue pill life.

You're talking to a guy who will Eiffel tower a slut then go get more baeeees.

Nothing wrong with that in itself.
Does it come at the price of your development or are you progressing in other aspects of your life as well?
Do you just spray until you can spray no more or do you have some long term plan in life?

Cucks will marry the woman I ran a train on.

I'm not sure there's anything wrong with marrying (or otherwise settling down without marrying) with a woman who's been f*cked senseless in her early years, not in itself.
The problem from what I understand is it reduces her ability to bond and possibly also "damages" her in other substantial ways.

I care about blowing on a woman's face. I care about ****ing crushing it.

I don't care about phaggotry. Talks of feelers or any nonsense about self help.

On that part we are of a different opinion then. No shame about understanding feelings, it doesn't have to be all f@ggy crying and holding hands. Feelings and emotions are another tool to enjoy life to its fullest, so are deep insights about life.
Being disconnected from that part will lead to a disaster later on in life more often than not. I've seen too many cases like that.
I don't see value in feeling tough about not connecting to your feelings, I believe it to be an ego thing. You feel like opening that door will hurt your masculine self image.
Purely practically speaking, it enhances life experience and gives you a serious edge in our social world, so why not? Again, I'm not talking about touchy feely f@g stuff, there are some legit stuff out there as well.

 

[jaymbrs]

You mustve had the coke. Thats hot for them.

I didn’t actually. And I don’t do it myself. She was just a druggie all on her own.

 

[jaymbrs]

Pic of said *****?

I’m tempted. But she’s actually doing good things in her music career right now. Her name is Shonna bonds. Look her up.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I didn’t actually. And I don’t do it myself. She was just a druggie all on her own.

You didn't supply?

 

[jaymbrs]

You didn't supply?

Nope. She had her own stuff. I lucked into that one really. I had a female friend who introduced us.