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The Terrible Truth About Older Women

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Article written by a Woman Consultant in Leadership Development.

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I am at a restaurant for a ladies lunch. We are talking about hair, our general unhappiness with its texture, sheen, volume. And color.

“I found a white hair,” says one of my friends.

I confess to having found many. I pull them out with a tweezer, hoping another does not rush to take its place.

We talk about food and exercise, the shameful truth that cutting back on one and increasing the other does not lead to a significant difference in our proportions. We gloomily acknowledge that we are stuck with the bodies we have – the accretion of cellulite, the sagging arms, the convex stomachs. Someone mentions vitamin supplements, the importance of calcium tablets, the possibility of osteopenia.

When the menu arrives, I put on my reading glasses. Another friend holds her phone at a distance, squinting. We laugh together in companionable embarrassment, hiding our anxiety. We know it, we are growing old. Little incidents like this confirm it, every day.

The logical sensible part of me urges me to accept the inevitable with grace and good humor. In my lighter moments I giggle with my girlfriends and insist that we all are eighteen till we die, we are young at heart etc. Yet, there is a part of me that protests against this march of time that longs to ward off old age for as long as possible.

I know that men too don’t look forward to growing old and confronting their own mortality. But they start worrying only when they are nearing seventy, unlike women who feel that they are old when they cross thirty-five. Why is growing old such a terrible horrific thing for women?

Yes, we all know that physical attractiveness is a wonderful blessing, as much as courage or goodness or intelligence. Somewhere along the way, youth and beauty have become synonymous for women. Perpetuated by cosmetic companies and their allies, the women’s magazines, youth is an elusive desirable commodity. We are being brainwashed into a wild goose chase for this elixir of youth which will take away all our problems, not just sagging skin but unhappy relationships and unfulfilling careers. Even if you are not young, you can look it. And if you look young and beautiful, you can have the world at your feet. Everything will be just the way it was when you were twenty. With taut skin and firm breasts, you can sail into an ocean of endless opportunities. Remove your sun spots and your husband will love you again. Wipe away that wrinkle and men’s heads will turn. Color your hair, else you will be called aunty and relegated to a lonely miserable life. Who can withstand this constant onslaught, the continuous reminder of our diminishing aesthetic appeal in the world?

Add to this, the fact that a forty plus woman is no longer of childbearing age. Despite all our medical and technological progress, the most important contribution a woman makes to humankind is to give birth to little humans. Age not only diminishes the aesthetic value of a woman but erodes her usefulness to society. This might no longer be true for many of us educated women in the modern world, but anxiety from a hundred years ago is still encoded in our hormones. We inherit this atavistic fear from our mothers in the womb. We feel the constant tick-tock of our biological clock. A man can father children well into his seventies but our ovaries decide to stop production in our forties. Biologically, it all makes sense. Mother Nature knows what she is doing but that doesn’t help other women who have to confront their decreasing utility.

Everything seems stacked against the aging women – physically, biologically, psychologically. While men become more powerful with age, accumulating money and status, the woman becomes increasingly irrelevant. The average Life expectancy for females in India at 67 years. What does a woman do with the last twenty years of her life?

We cannot prevent aging, but we can prepare for it in a better way. We also need some help from the world at large to keep depression and dementia at bay. Can we see some forty plus models in their graying glory gracing the cover of the magazines? Can we watch more movies with older women as superstars bashing up baddies and romancing younger men? Can we read about an 88-year-old woman getting married to her longtime lover? Can we share stuff about older women climbing Mount Everest or running marathons instead of retweeting Poonam Pandey’s picture?

“With mirth and laughter, let old wrinkles come,” said the bard. I am not going to feel so terrible about the next white hair I see. I will laugh at myself as I pluck it out. I will take my calcium and vitamins supplements and do my yoga, knowing that I have the gift of a rich beautiful life to look forward to.
 

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Getting old is awful for women mostly because it means having to adjust their attitudes.

But from their perspectives, the hard lessons learned from not getting Mr. Perfect and Not Getting What The Other Girls Got should enable them to get away with a worse attitude and they now can dance up to that line (the line of what's socially permissible to get away with) more gracefully now, as they see it. Too bad that line has moved way the F back like a rising tide of cellulite.
 
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I will take my calcium and vitamins supplements and do my yoga, knowing that I have the gift of a rich beautiful life to look forward to.
A rich, beautiful life of cackling over fluff. Statues will be erected, hospitals built in their names, history books will wax glowingly over their leadership abilities, and when the ET's make contact they will insist on interfacing with them directly. The legend of the Cackling Hen shall never die.
 

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The author wrote: "Age not only diminishes the aesthetic value of a woman but erodes her usefulness to society"

That's ONE way of thinking. Also true:

Pauline Kael, Joan Rivers, Belle Barth, Camille Paglia, AS Byatt, and many more gals really hit their stride-professionally and creatively-later on in life. Gillian Anderson has enjoyed a career renaissance from her late 40s onward, after spending what are generally considered prime years for an actress languishing on a TV series that overstayed it's welcome by about 5 seasons, then slumming it in indie fare that largely went unseen. Julianne Moore, Jennifer Coolidge, Meryl Streep, Rita Moreno, Michelle Yeoh, and Helen Mirren are all still going strong. Gladys Knight and Patti Labelle continued performing well into their twlight years. Outside the realm of celebrities, lots of chicks get their MDs, JDs, and PHDs after the kids are grown and gone

Yeah, women are at the height of their sexual attractiveness for a comparatively short time, but that's only a problem for those who rely exclusively on their beauty, and have zilch in the way of talent to back it up with
 
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I see the good and bad in young and old. Only so many times your **** goes inside a ***** and you get that new feeling.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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All you guys that think women have it easy, pay attention. Sure they do when they are young and beautiful. But things that come easy(beauty) never lasts. They also don't garner much respect, appreciation, or value. That only develops over time and Father Time is not kind to beauty.

If you want to win at life, play the long game. Pay your dues, earn your value.
 

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Nothing hits reality worse than a woman who has been hot all her life and then turns 40 or older
Or a woman who used to be hot and then lets herself go and becomes fat.
They were used to getting men's attention all their lives by just existing and suddenly get ignored

They typically still have the attitude as if they are hot, but they soon learn that people don't kiss their a$$ like before but the worst for these women is the type of man they could get easily in their youth or when they were hot now ignores them. That burns them. Even the men these women would consider 2nd tier don't take them seriously. I have seen some of these women delusionaly cling to their former status or some lock in and lose the weight. While losing weight IMO keeps people attractive and younger, eventually women do become old. Christine Brinkley is hot for a 70 year old but 30 year old Christine Brinkley was far hotter(the same can be said for Sophia Lauren etc)

The thing is even with losing the weight one thing women can't reverse is age. No matter what, we all get old.
 
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Advice from the old lady:

Listen. Getting older has its issues, but it has its advantages too. In a way you get your youth back, but (if you did well for yourself) with a bit of money to be able to actually afford to do stuff.

Kids get grown, move out, move on. You get your time back without having to find a sitter or forego a spontaneous outing.

Many of my friends are retired but with money. We ski, mountain climb, travel, ride, hike, golf, and enjoy various other activities. I am having a ball and have gotten my freedom back after childrearing.

My grandparents were the same. I recall from my childhood looking at all the photo albums and scrapbooks my grandmother made from their travels all over Europe and North America. They had a big RV and traveled all over with a neighbor couple.

We all age. Yes I've been fortunate to retain my looks, but I'm not 25. I refuse to devolve into a complainer griping about the things in the article. But great looks and great health start in youth with great habits and discipline regarding self indulgences. Many women don't make those choices in youth and get by exclusively on beauty. I am a beautiful woman, but that is not what I built my life on. Beauty was a bonus.

I feel grateful for my life. And I am looking forward to the next phase once my youngest leaves high school.
 
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All you guys that think women have it easy, pay attention. Sure they do when they are young and beautiful. But things that come easy(beauty) never lasts. They also don't garner much respect, appreciation, or value. That only develops over time and Father Time is not kind to beauty.

If you want to win at life, play the long game. Pay your dues, earn your value.
Yeah: Clever women realize this, even when they're beautiful
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She sounds miserable. You literally can't watch hardly anything made the last few years without seeing an older woman banging a younger man to the cheers of other women anywhere. You go girl! If women think it's hard to get older try being a non wealthy man, like 99% of them. You wanna talk about being invisible in society, there you go. This whiny juvenile and all her saggy buddies will still have 1000X the opportunities for companionship that their similarly aged and saggy male brethren will have. There are few things women do better than throwing themselves pity parties and this is just the latest example.
 

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Bull$hit. It's been said on this forum many times that a woman has abundance even in her 60s (thanks to dating apps)
 

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Getting old is awful for women mostly because it means having to adjust their attitudes.

But from their perspectives, the hard lessons learned from not getting Mr. Perfect and Not Getting What The Other Girls Got should enable them to get away with a worse attitude and they now can dance up to that line (the line of what's socially permissible to get away with) more gracefully now, as they see it. Too bad that line has moved way the F back like a rising tide of cellulite.
One time at an organized singles event, a woman who looked 50-ish (and had some mustache hairs) turned me down. The audacity! (I'm not saying every woman has to be into me. But I'm clearly better than her in terms of looks)

You're right, they need to adjust their attitude.

I know I just said on my last post that an older woman has abundance thanks to apps. And I stand by what I said. Here's the catch though: An older woman isn't going to get Mr Perfect. They'll get plenty of interested men...the interested men just won't be Mr Perfect.

The 50-ish woman I just mentioned from the organized singles event is probably holding out for Mr Perfect (which would explain why she's single, as well as why she's delusional enough to turn down an imperfect man who at least still has much better looks than her)
 

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One time at an organized singles event, a woman who looked 50-ish (and had some mustache hairs) turned me down. The audacity! (I'm not saying every woman has to be into me. But I'm clearly better than her in terms of looks)

You're right, they need to adjust their attitude.

I know I just said on my last post that an older woman has abundance thanks to apps. And I stand by what I said. Here's the catch though: An older woman isn't going to get Mr Perfect. They'll get plenty of interested men...the interested men just won't be Mr Perfect.

The 50-ish woman I just mentioned from the organized singles event is probably holding out for Mr Perfect (which would explain why she's single, as well as why she's delusional enough to turn down an imperfect man who at least still has much better looks than her)
10 bucks says she was a natural brunette and either Jewish or Catholic.
 

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10 bucks says she was a natural brunette and either Jewish or Catholic.
She had brown hair, yeah.

Her faith never came up.

To show the absurdity of her turning me down, here's an AI rendition (with the genders flipped). Her turning me down would be like the following AI man turning the following AI woman down:

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woman becomes increasingly irrelevant.
This might have been true in the pre-internet and early internet era but is far less true now.

It's been said on this forum many times that a woman has abundance even in her 60s (thanks to dating apps)
Here's what typically happens with older women. What I'm about to describe can happen with women as young as their 30s. Postmenopausal women do experience this as well.

Many 30+ women don't have a good day-to-day routine for meeting men if they happen to become single. What ends up happening is that the women can often perceive she's getting less real life attention, which will happen if she's not dropping thirst traps on her Instagram and she lacks a big Instagram following.

Older women have now learned that they can use the internet (either social media or swipe apps) to get more attention than they got as 21 year olds at some point in their past.

A 40 year old, childless Millennial woman who puts herself on a swipe app is far from irrelevant. She has hundreds of men in her swipe queue. There's no way she gets nearly that much attention going to the gym or bars, even if she's an above average looking 40 year old woman.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This might have been true in the pre-internet and early internet era but is far less true now.



Here's what typically happens with older women. What I'm about to describe can happen with women as young as their 30s. Postmenopausal women do experience this as well.

Many 30+ women don't have a good day-to-day routine for meeting men if they happen to become single. What ends up happening is that the women can often perceive she's getting less real life attention, which will happen if she's not dropping thirst traps on her Instagram and she lacks a big Instagram following.

Older women have now learned that they can use the internet (either social media or swipe apps) to get more attention than they got as 21 year olds at some point in their past.

A 40 year old, childless Millennial woman who puts herself on a swipe app is far from irrelevant. She has hundreds of men in her swipe queue. There's no way she gets nearly that much attention going to the gym or bars, even if she's an above average looking 40 year old woman.
The phenomenon you're describing would suggest plenty of men are into an older woman; it just took the internet to bring said men out of the woodwork.

As for the inevitable question some readers might have of where these men (men who like older) were in the early internet and pre-internet era: They always existed. As you indicated, however, an older woman's daily routine isn't exactly conducive to finding these men in person.
 

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As for the inevitable question some readers might have of where these men (men who like older) were in the early internet and pre-internet era: They always existed
They're similar to the coelcanth: Chances of encountering more than one of them in a lifetime are lower than The Pistons's prospects of making it to The Finals anytime soon
 

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They're similar to the coelcanth: Chances of encountering more than one of them in a lifetime are lower than The Pistons's prospects of making it to The Finals anytime soon
So how's the water in Flint these days anyway, Baron?
 

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They're similar to the coelcanth: Chances of encountering more than one of them in a lifetime are lower than The Pistons's prospects of making it to The Finals anytime soon
When I say "men who like older," that doesn't solely mean men like me (who prefer a woman older than himself). It means men in general who don't mind getting with a 40, 50, even 60-something. Many of these men trying to get with old/middle-aged cooch on swipe apps are 50+ year old men.

The sheer abundance an older woman has on swipe apps says it all.
 
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