The Still Unanswered question: C+F vs Charm

[onthepath]

hi guys
i wanted to hear your experiences in adopting these two different schools of thought
i've been having some great success with C+F and a don't give a **** attitude - but i'm attracting the wrong girls for me
i attract the more confident (nice quality) but more arrogant and b!tchy girls

so i wanted to try going the other way. i've heard, but never witnessed of charming men, who although use flattery, dont wind up being a kiss ass, and still end up with the cool chicks, and especilly the more LTR chicks

i got this ebook How to Win Friends and Influence People and i've listened to the first chapter or so, and it's talking about prtty much being pleasant, and less critical of others - it's some pretty inspiring stuff i might add

anyway, can you guys shed some light on the subject

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

C&F is part of charm, thats like saying what is better a car or a set of car wheels.

 

[Craig Reeves]

Yep, that's right.

 

[Qmanchoo]

Here is way I look at it.

Wit is very charming to women.

C&F, _in part_, is a concept that helps you project a witty side to your personality. However, all the C&F things you say are somehow related to busting chops.

Is it healthy to always want to be subtley insulted by someone? Depends. Some women have a different emotional responses to it than others, however I've noticed that C&F attractes more of the "bad girls" thand "Good girls".

You can be witty, and as a result very charming, without busting balls.

Problem is that a lot of people aren't exactly witty. Or if they are it's not on call...only when they "are on a roll" so to speak.

That's where the concept of C&F helps you out.

As an extremely smart...off-the-wall-witty...and successful friend pointed out to me a long time ago "Busting balls got some women attracted to me, but wit worked on everyone and then I had my pick"

 

[McKindley]

I'm never ****y with girls. I just can't pull it off (and trust me, I've tried). But I'm always funny. So I'll be charming and funny, but not ****y. You can project plenty of confidence without being ****y. ****y always seemed like fake confidence to me (but hey, it might not be with you. That's just the way it feels to me when I'm doing it).

As long as you're funny and charming and not self depricating you're doing fine.

Part of the reason I don't like the ****y thing is, I hate it when I just met a girl and she starts trying to bust my balls. I'm just thinking, "hey, I don't know you. quit trying to bust on me."

But hey, if it works for you, use it. It just doesn't work for me.