"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
"The Rules" for Women by Women.
- Thread starter DJ_Dork
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
undesputable
Master Don Juan
if youre a dj and youre after a girl who follows the rules, is just not going to work out...cause you both will kinda be following the same sort of hard to get game.....
To be honest, I don't have any beef with the rules. I think SOME of the ideas are good (let the man lead) (don't try to change a man). However, I do think MANY of the ideas are deterimental to women. The Rules assumes the men that a woman will date are AFC. The phone games and lack of kino on the first dates can backfire if the man is a PUA.
Additionally, the Rules puts too much focus on the Man part, like Dj_Dork says, and not enough on the woman improving herself. Where are the rules about eating right, exercising, reading? The Rules assumes the woman is ALREADY a prize... PUA's know that this is just not the case...
Additionally, the Rules puts too much focus on the Man part, like Dj_Dork says, and not enough on the woman improving herself. Where are the rules about eating right, exercising, reading? The Rules assumes the woman is ALREADY a prize... PUA's know that this is just not the case...
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
While some of the stuff is too trivial, like no accepting Saturday dates after Wednesday and 10 minute phone calls, I also have no problem with pretty much anything in there.
Silquee Smoove
Master Don Juan
I had a debate with my mother and few other people on that book and it stemmed from a friend of mine giving his number to a girl he was interested in.
She believed he should get her number (The Rules)
vs.
He gave her his number and it was her option to call or not call.
I'm favoring the second method as it allows her to make the decision and takes the pressure off her.
She believed he should get her number (The Rules)
vs.
He gave her his number and it was her option to call or not call.
I'm favoring the second method as it allows her to make the decision and takes the pressure off her.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Alen-Delon
Senior Don Juan
15. No sex before marriage
Don't rush into intimate contact while dating
what da Fu*k what is a cave-Fu*king_age,,, this rule books and ridicolous...
Don't rush into intimate contact while dating
what da Fu*k what is a cave-Fu*king_age,,, this rule books and ridicolous...
chicksrock
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I have bookmarked those rules...
They confirm exactly how girls behave like in the dating process!...and has given me insights into how to tackle it ..
They confirm exactly how girls behave like in the dating process!...and has given me insights into how to tackle it ..
squirrels
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Haha actually it doesn't seem that bad! Except for the "no sex" part, but for the RIGHT girl I could live with that...just as long as we're going by the Clintonian definition of "no sex". 
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.