iqqi
Master Don Juan
Great posts Interceptor.
Great interception.

Great interception.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Methinks he's going to get pelleted with ass-kiss shots.iqqi said:Great posts Interceptor.
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jophil, have your read the posts after Rollo's post?jophil28 said:Gold.
However I would never expect any woman to openly acknowledge this even if she had the awareness that it was true in the first place.
WE know it is true and that is all that counts.
Good point. It sort of is amusing, or at least becomes amusing once you understand it. If you understand it, you understand that this is just how women operate, and if you learn how confident men operate, then the good vibes just start flowing.Purple-Haze said:I have NEVER met a man who is successful with women complain about them or ascribe all blame to them as a sex. In fact, these men understand women and how they work (they find it amusing) but they never allow these observations (much of which is based on biology and basic mating ritual) to grow into a deep-rooted sort of hate that holds them back.
Precisely.reset said:Good point. It sort of is amusing, or at least becomes amusing once you understand it. If you understand it, you understand that this is just how women operate, and if you learn how confident men operate, then the good vibes just start flowing.
If men and women were meant to be at odds and adversaries, then I don't think most of us would be here.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Definately. !Purple-Haze said:Scary but fun, no? I swear, it gives me an adrenaline rush EVERY TIME. ... I LITERALLY feel like I am high on a narcotic.
Then how the hell do "betas" or "ordinary guys" get anywhere? This I DON'T understand. It's all ABOUT this dance. The dance is the subject itself.Purple-Haze said:For that initial attraction to be maintained, you NEED the push/pull dance. This is why the beta falls short. He doesn't know how to challenge her and an alpha can.
Good post.reset said:Good point. It sort of is amusing, or at least becomes amusing once you understand it. If you understand it, you understand that this is just how women operate, and if you learn how confident men operate, then the good vibes just start flowing.
If men and women were meant to be at odds and adversaries, then I don't think most of us would be here.
I think human nature will always be the same, and whatever "era" we may be in, where the words and attitudes are a little different from the previous eras, that's nothing to worry about. Human nature is what it is. It's independent from the country or era or class you live in.
Well they do. They get in there initially and sometimes are able to maintain a relationship BUT over time, her interest wanes. Now not every woman will cheat (I'm sure some of the fine folk here will argue with me on this) but she will lose interest and just be "meh" about it all...and the beta will pursue harder and keep facing a brick wall.reset said:Then how the hell do "betas" or "ordinary guys" get anywhere? This I DON'T understand. It's all ABOUT this dance. The dance is the subject itself.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
We are. :moon:Zero2 said:Uh, whos winning?
Men side or female side with special guest interceptor?
Purple-Haze said:A man who challenges conveys MANY things inadvertently (that he is a provider, strong, protective, has quality genes, is selective, is mentally strong, etc). I mean, in ONE meeting you can gather a great deal about a guy just based on the way he approaches you.
I'd edit your sig.Zero2 said:Uh, whos winning?
Men side or female side with special guest interceptor?
Actually Purple Haze is basically confirming all the postive masculinity stuff this place is about.Zero2 said:Uh, whos winning?
Men side or female side with special guest interceptor?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I use provider in the raw, primordial sense (that he can take care of his own, can protect you, won't shy away from danger, is willing to go out on a limb if the occasion arises, is adaptable etc). This all comes through in his approach. I am not talking "provider" as in he'll sign over the deed to his house and let you call him your sugar daddy.reset said:This is interesting, the only part I'm not sure about is how you say you can tell he's a provider. Here, guys think if they are perceived as a provider then they aren't perceived as a lover. I think here that word is perceived as "nice guy".
Perhaps it's those other strong traits, that would equal being able to be successful in the world, and ultimately, being able to "provide" from that.
Brilliant.reset said:Lol, yeah I figured that's what you meant.
I think some of the perspectives on this board are very black and white, you are either the lover playboy or the suggar daddy supplicator. Guys just need to focus on bringing out the best in themselves, and to embrace their masculinity, which is what I'm doing as well.
Honestly, if you are improving your life, then your life improves. I doubt, that if you are focusing on mental/emotional/physical growth, that financial growth wouldn't just end up being a side effect of that anyway. It doesn't have to be either/or.
Working on yourself is fine. But why should one take themselves out of the game just because they are in the "fixing" stage. I mean, do we ever REALLY fix ourselves? I don't think so. No one truly achieves a state of pure enlightenment...it's a process that a very rare few finish.iqqi said:Your friend who refuses to date the quality guy because she is intimidated is either BSing (and trying to communicate to you that she can get quality guys without sounding arrogant) OR she doesn't think she's good enough. So let her breed with a non-quality man. What do you care. If you are her friend, you will set her straight and attempt to show her the error or her ways. If she means nothing to you, I suggest you tell her anyway. Someone needs to snap her out of her "woe is me" BS.
No one has the right to complain about the other sex when they themselves are so flawed.
She doesn't think she is good enough. And right now, she is right. She has a lot of work to do on herself. But she could take a step in the right direction, by associating with men of better character. I don't need to keep telling her though. She isn't stupid, she knows. And I prefer to lead by example. She never would have met that great guy if she wasn't hanging out with me in the first place.
I have faith in her.
The first friend I mentioned is much more a problem. She fits your last sentence. She has a very entitled viewpoint, but of course she only dates jerks. She wouldn't know what to do with a real man. But I have hope for her yet. She is very intelligent and good looking. But she has some rotten views and ways about her. (Regarding men).
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.