^reading this makes me realise why there is no point contacting the ex. Short of a chance to sit down with a drink and talk to her, nothing else will make me feel any better. That kind of message or email and I will feel bad again.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
petitefri said:So I sent that email to my ex after he broke up with me on the phone. I broke my NC after 18 days :-(This is the email
Hey! I know this is a bit random, but I just wanted to say thanks for all the great times we spent together. I've learned a lot from our relationship, and I'm moving on. I hope we can still be friends down the road, though. Anyway, hope all is well with you.
so 5 days later he replies with this:
Hey (my name )
Just seen your email. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but I guess we've both learned things. Thank you for the good memories too and I'm glad you are moving on. I still have your boots by the way, I don't know what you want me to do with them? Take care
(His name )x.
By the way I don't plan on replying to this. As for my boots I got a couple already. But I now know the disgust I got for selfish guys ( no offense)
Srsly **** that guy man. He sounds like a prick. "We both learned something" man, I'd punch him in the face as hard as I could. THAT would make him learn something.Colette said:I told you he doesn't care. he is a douchebag, it took him 5 days to reply and his response is cold and insensitive. screw him . He said you both learned things, I bet he learned nothing
Noyou said:^all
There is no point in contacting an ex if you were the one dumped. Nothing good will come of it.
You will feel unresolved, but get used to that. Life is that way.
If you move on, the universe will play out as it should, but defy your bitterness. If you wallow in pain and worry about what he/she is doing, he/she is winning and is right about you.
Don't give them the satisfaction!
Again I'll give my examples
Before the breakup:
1. I was a jealous mess because the ex would constantly put herself in positions she's not supposed to put herself in when you're committed.
2. Did not stand up for me
3. Lied to me
4. Probably wasn't faithful
5. I'd have to treat her like a kid because she had no realm of adult hygiene, responsibility, relationship skills
6. Always felt on edge like she never listen to me but I had to pay attention to her
7. Always give her gifts when I had a part time job
8. Treated her with love and respect
9. Was a begging mess when she broke up with me
10. Always felt like I was giving 100% and she was giving 5%
11. Had constant anxiety issues
After the breakup and letting go:
1. Got a new higher paying job in my career field.
2. Sent to trips over the US for training in my field
3. Been turning into a well built guy that's physically appealing and oozing with confidence.
4. Making higher pay and getting promoted
5. Meeting new people in high places in my field
6. Had sex with women that rank a 8 - 10 on the hotness scale.
7. 1 of them wants to be FWB And is going through the same thing I am
8. In a week I'm being sent out again for business
9. Her friends that have seen me are astonished/want nothing to do with me when they see me. (I don't frequent where me and ex used to go to, it so happens her friends do see me where I go though)
10. I'm no longer a begging mess
11. I simply laugh at the male prospects she goes after (they are sad)
12. I'm having fun instead of being on edge all the time
13. No anxiety issues
Let go ladies and gents, life is too short for all that bull****.
THEY WILL COME AROUND, but by the time they do, you'll feel nothing for them.
If you hit it off again, maybe it was meant to be. BUT DONT WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR THEM, ONLY FOR YOURSELF! BECOME THE PERSON YOU WANT TO BE/DREAM TO BE.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Noyou said:Srsly **** that guy man. He sounds like a prick. "We both learned something" man, I'd punch him in the face as hard as I could. THAT would make him learn something.
LET GO OF HIM, he will see and learn then, trust me.
oh my God. thanks for such an encouraging note. am glad i came on here. for a moment i felt bad but i am and will get over it. and will better myself a million time.Noyou said:Srsly **** that guy man. He sounds like a prick. "We both learned something" man, I'd punch him in the face as hard as I could. THAT would make him learn something.
LET GO OF HIM, he will see and learn then, trust me.
Thanks for your thoughts Colette. Its tearing me apart she has introduced this guy to my son after only a few weeks. My ex was after my money and my house so I finished the relationship. She then took my son abroad so I had to go to court to get my son back into the UK. She then stopped my contact with my son. i ended up taking her to court for access. it cost me 7 grand in the end. And now introducing this guy so early. Just dont understand why she would do this as it will affect ny son.Colette said:I think she brings her new bf to hurt you. She is trying to tell you that her life is good, she has a new man now, and this new man plays daddy's role in your son`s life. It may not be true but that is how she want you to think .
I don't know why you guys broke up, whether you hurt her feeling or not ....etc . But she definitely is out there to hurt you so she is using this guy and your son to get to you.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
stevedudley said:Thanks for your thoughts Colette. Its tearing me apart she has introduced this guy to my son after only a few weeks. My ex was after my money and my house so I finished the relationship. She then took my son abroad so I had to go to court to get my son back into the UK. She then stopped my contact with my son. i ended up taking her to court for access. it cost me 7 grand in the end. And now introducing this guy so early. Just dont understand why she would do this as it will affect ny son.
Sounds like the good digger wanted a paycheck and a house but didn't get the house. Now that things didn't go in her favor, she found a new toy and is dangling him and your son in front of you doing all this introducing and such.stevedudley said:Thanks for your thoughts Colette. Its tearing me apart she has introduced this guy to my son after only a few weeks. My ex was after my money and my house so I finished the relationship. She then took my son abroad so I had to go to court to get my son back into the UK. She then stopped my contact with my son. i ended up taking her to court for access. it cost me 7 grand in the end. And now introducing this guy so early. Just dont understand why she would do this as it will affect ny son.
Noyou said:Sounds like the good digger wanted a paycheck and a house but didn't get the house. Now that things didn't go in her favor, she found a new toy and is dangling him and your son in front of you doing all this introducing and such.
Your ex sounds like a horrible human being.
I'd fight to get her rights taken from her, because she seems like a person who would get child support to gain her own needs.[/QUOTE
yes she sure is a gold digger. she now has a house rent free from the goverment. She receives benefits. She has gone to the child support agency for my money and has the new guys money. I always got my sons clothes, nappies and food. Anything my son needed I got. But she wanted money. But it has gone wrong for her as I own my own business and pay myself a low wage so I only have to pay her a small amount. But I will continue to buy my son things. I am just happy that I can be the support my son needs. But this whole situation will always continue as we have a son. I would be happy if I never had to see or speak to her again.
stevedudley said:Steve,Noyou said:Sounds like the good digger wanted a paycheck and a house but didn't get the house. Now that things didn't go in her favor, she found a new toy and is dangling him and your son in front of you doing all this introducing and such.
Your ex sounds like a horrible human being.
I'd fight to get her rights taken from her, because she seems like a person who would get child support to gain her own needs.[/QUOTE
yes she sure is a gold digger. she now has a house rent free from the goverment. She receives benefits. She has gone to the child support agency for my money and has the new guys money. I always got my sons clothes, nappies and food. Anything my son needed I got. But she wanted money. But it has gone wrong for her as I own my own business and pay myself a low wage so I only have to pay her a small amount. But I will continue to buy my son things. I am just happy that I can be the support my son needs. But this whole situation will always continue as we have a son. I would be happy if I never had to see or speak to her again.
Your case is extremely disheartening man. Really sorry to hear about all this. You must be having a very difficult time. Have you tried to speak to Legals about how to best handle this situation for the future? Paying yourself a low-wage forever is not going to cut and seems like she dug in for a fight.
beatjunkie said:Hi beatjunkie. Yes I have been to court. It cost me £7000. but I have good access now with my son. But my low wage is ok. Have a good accountant and can still get money out my company. But my motivation is my son. One day he will realise what is going on and will want to live with me. But this situation is hard and hurtful. I do not talk to my ex at all. I ignore her texts and emails. She will never take my dignity from me.I am a great believer that one day she will hurt in the future. But as I say I have to be a great dad for my son, that is what is important.stevedudley said:Steve,
Your case is extremely disheartening man. Really sorry to hear about all this. You must be having a very difficult time. Have you tried to speak to Legals about how to best handle this situation for the future? Paying yourself a low-wage forever is not going to cut and seems like she dug in for a fight.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
stevedudley said:They say you you may think you have got all the problems on your shoulder until you listen to another person share theirs!beatjunkie said:Hi beatjunkie. Yes I have been to court. It cost me £7000. but I have good access now with my son. But my low wage is ok. Have a good accountant and can still get money out my company. But my motivation is my son. One day he will realise what is going on and will want to live with me. But this situation is hard and hurtful. I do not talk to my ex at all. I ignore her texts and emails. She will never take my dignity from me.I am a great believer that one day she will hurt in the future. But as I say I have to be a great dad for my son, that is what is important.
I will say keep calm and enjoy life with your son. Happy you are protecting your dignity! You will be blessed someday Steve
CerwinVegaFan said:Day 40
Memories about the ex keep popping out. Mostly bad and hurtful ones. My mind is still processing the fact that she's not that perfect little girl she used to be when I met her.
Colette said:
your ex look is below average . I know it is not all about look , but she is not attractive at all, and from everything u said her personality is not that good either. So I am not sure what is all this fuss about you are making !
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.