penkitten
Master Don Juan
i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Frank2500 said:... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...
This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.
Anything in the name of enlightening the fine fellows (and ladies) on this boardpenkitten said:i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?
jophil28 said:Frank2500 said:... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...
This is what I was saying. It has little to do with a man's "faulty perception" or not being "good" enough to acquire a quality woman. It is about what most women's behavior and qualities are, "She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky." Women are bad enough about using cop outs and not owning their behavior. I'm kind of surprised DJs are making excuses and cop outs for them too.This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Believe it or not, this is one of those areas where women tend to be more self aware. I have had more than one chick tell me that she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.Interceptor said:Women look for leadership in Men. They look for dominance in Men.
This is because they know their true selves. And why they truly want a strong, REAL Masculine Man, who will (Gasp!) "Put his foot down, and keep her in line!".
:yes:she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.
ketostix I'm kind of surprised DJs are making excuses and cop outs for them (women) too.[/QUOTE said:---------------------------------------
I agree..., women are highly killed at making excuses for their own behavoir - they hardy need our help too.
*** We need to be wary of getting caught up in fashionable pop psychology.
Dr Phil says , " We teach people how to treat us ". Mmm ! if only it was that easy. Anyone ever had a realtionship with a BPD G/f or an NPD parent ? I have. They act out of their pathology - my attempts to "teach then how to treat me " was a dismal failure.
The popularity of the concept of being "the best to attract the best" is also simplistic and "faddish" thinking . IT is likely that we, as we improve, could even attract more pretenders who want some of our preceived glory to be bestowed on them.After all, rich men attract golddiggers .Being better does NOT nean that we will attract BETTER women. WE may in fact attract more accomplised manipulators and users who want some of what we now have, and this is exactly why we need to be clear about who we want and what we want in a QUALITY woman to eliminate the fakers .
Human behaviour is NOT an exact science and has never been - to treat is as such is academic agrandisement.
I wish that those on this board who are so enamored of their own psych wisdom were back on the field in 2007 and playing the dating game instead of sermonizing to us from the bleachers.
Beautifully put. The 1% that are "quality" by the OP standard have other issues, not the least of which is lack of femininity. Fickle behavior is practically a requirement for a female personality.Colossus said:I couldnt agree more on the integrity issue. I think that integrity is more of a natural quality in men, meaning it is a product of both our genetics and our upbringing. Women are raised differently, treated differently in social matters, and are obviously cognitively assimilar to men.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
:yes:Colossus said:It is easy to take your own lack of understanding in dealing with women and the difficulties it creates and simply project that onto a given woman (or women), saying they are 'low quality'. It alleviates you of the responsibility you have to change your perspective.
my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.Interceptor said:Penny,
see if you can include some of your thoughts on women's sh*t tests, and how women qualify men, and especially how in your opinion and experiences, the best strategies to get through them.
I usually say something sarcastic back, or don't acknowledge it.
But I've had some real zingers in my time.
No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.
no, sometimes they are not complex things. i wish i had a cup of coffee... means make me some coffee . it has nothing to do with any other future manipulation, except for coffee and you will now be deemed the official coffee maker.ketostix said:No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
ketostix said:Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
She left out the main and only reason for a woman's infidelity - horish behavior/mindset! Only marry a virgin!!!ketostix said:Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.