The Myth of the Quality Woman

[penkitten]

i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?

 

[jophil28]

... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...

This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.

 

[Interceptor]

Penny,
see if you can include some of your thoughts on women's sh*t tests, and how women qualify men, and especially how in your opinion and experiences, the best strategies to get through them.
I usually say something sarcastic back, or don't acknowledge it.
But I've had some real zingers in my time.

 

[STR8UP]

i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?

Anything in the name of enlightening the fine fellows (and ladies) on this board

 

[ketostix]

... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...

This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.

This is what I was saying. It has little to do with a man's "faulty perception" or not being "good" enough to acquire a quality woman. It is about what most women's behavior and qualities are, "She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky." Women are bad enough about using cop outs and not owning their behavior. I'm kind of surprised DJs are making excuses and cop outs for them too.

 

[Interceptor]

Well said, Keto.
Women are often acting without the awareness of the responsibility for their actions. It's kind of like if a woman said :"I'm a woman, remember? Don't take what I say seriously. I'm not responsible for my actions."

Women look for leadership in Men. They look for dominance in Men.
This is because they know their true selves. And why they truly want a strong, REAL Masculine Man, who will (Gasp!) "Put his foot down, and keep her in line!"

And no, I still love women, I am no woman hater.

 

[STR8UP]

Women look for leadership in Men. They look for dominance in Men.
This is because they know their true selves. And why they truly want a strong, REAL Masculine Man, who will (Gasp!) "Put his foot down, and keep her in line!".

Believe it or not, this is one of those areas where women tend to be more self aware. I have had more than one chick tell me that she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.

 

[Interceptor]

she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.

:yes:

 

[jophil28]

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I agree..., women are highly killed at making excuses for their own behavoir - they hardy need our help too.

*** We need to be wary of getting caught up in fashionable pop psychology.

Dr Phil says , " We teach people how to treat us ". Mmm ! if only it was that easy. Anyone ever had a realtionship with a BPD G/f or an NPD parent ? I have. They act out of their pathology - my attempts to "teach then how to treat me " was a dismal failure.

The popularity of the concept of being "the best to attract the best" is also simplistic and "faddish" thinking . IT is likely that we, as we improve, could even attract more pretenders who want some of our preceived glory to be bestowed on them.After all, rich men attract golddiggers .Being better does NOT nean that we will attract BETTER women. WE may in fact attract more accomplised manipulators and users who want some of what we now have, and this is exactly why we need to be clear about who we want and what we want in a QUALITY woman to eliminate the fakers .

Human behaviour is NOT an exact science and has never been - to treat is as such is academic agrandisement.

I wish that those on this board who are so enamored of their own psych wisdom were back on the field in 2007 and playing the dating game instead of sermonizing to us from the bleachers.

 

[bigjohnson]

I couldnt agree more on the integrity issue. I think that integrity is more of a natural quality in men, meaning it is a product of both our genetics and our upbringing. Women are raised differently, treated differently in social matters, and are obviously cognitively assimilar to men.

Beautifully put. The 1% that are "quality" by the OP standard have other issues, not the least of which is lack of femininity. Fickle behavior is practically a requirement for a female personality.

 

[iqqi]

It is easy to take your own lack of understanding in dealing with women and the difficulties it creates and simply project that onto a given woman (or women), saying they are 'low quality'. It alleviates you of the responsibility you have to change your perspective.

:yes:

 

[penkitten]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1259100#post1259100

 

[penkitten]

Penny,
see if you can include some of your thoughts on women's sh*t tests, and how women qualify men, and especially how in your opinion and experiences, the best strategies to get through them.
I usually say something sarcastic back, or don't acknowledge it.
But I've had some real zingers in my time.

my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.
some women are quick on the wit to just say what they want, but for many of us, we must stragetically plan something to test a guy.
the best way to get thru something that you feel is a test, is just to be yourself and not fold like a bad hand of cards.
always be the man that you are, and if some chick comes along and tries to test that, then you stand your ground.
not everything is a test, you must learn to recognize the differences between what is a test and what is just regular life in your face.
being witty is always a good way to show that you are relaxed and calm, cool and collective and not worried about petty things.

 

[ketostix]

my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.

No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.

 

[penkitten]

No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.

no, sometimes they are not complex things. i wish i had a cup of coffee... means make me some coffee . it has nothing to do with any other future manipulation, except for coffee and you will now be deemed the official coffee maker.

what to do? either tell her to make her own coffee in a nice way or a blunt way, or make the coffee.

but you guys have tests too.

 

[ketostix]

Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/

 

[KontrollerX]

Damn good link ketostix.

 

[STR8UP]

Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. That's what we are up against. I would love to pull some quotes from that site cause they confirm EXACTLY what I am saying. Gonna have to wait till tonite tho...gotta work

 

[Last Man Standing]

Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/

She left out the main and only reason for a woman's infidelity - horish behavior/mindset! Only marry a virgin!!!

 

[aliasguy]

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Look, people cheat. Men cheat. Women cheat.

Not everyone, but a LOT, and, apparently, the incidence is on the rise. (Although I suspect maybe not - -- maybe we just hear more about it now.)

THOSE are the cards we are dealt. We just have to accept and deal with it. Wishing will not make it go away. The way things are in society today, you HAVE to at least be aware. How you decide to handle it is up to you. I have my own way.

And, unfortunately, we will not be able to change these unpleasant facts. Things are the way they are.

Live life, enjoy people for who they are, lower your demands on them, and move on in life-- with or without a given person. We each can choose.
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