penkitten
Master Don Juan
i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Frank2500 said:... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...
This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.
Anything in the name of enlightening the fine fellows (and ladies) on this boardpenkitten said:i am working on a new thread that will talk about some of the things in your thread. would you like me to link to this one when its complete?
jophil28 said:Frank2500 said:... When things got sour and I started to realize who she was in reality, she brought the other guy she was seeing to the gym to see if she could provoke me. They swam together, etc. and she got him to join the gym ...
This is what I was saying. It has little to do with a man's "faulty perception" or not being "good" enough to acquire a quality woman. It is about what most women's behavior and qualities are, "She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky." Women are bad enough about using cop outs and not owning their behavior. I'm kind of surprised DJs are making excuses and cop outs for them too.This is what "low QUALITY" women do.. and her behavior has NOTHING to do with Frank, his behavior or his evolution as a DJ. She owns her behavior and it is poor, adolescent and tacky.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Believe it or not, this is one of those areas where women tend to be more self aware. I have had more than one chick tell me that she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.Interceptor said:Women look for leadership in Men. They look for dominance in Men.
This is because they know their true selves. And why they truly want a strong, REAL Masculine Man, who will (Gasp!) "Put his foot down, and keep her in line!".
:yes:she wants a man who isn't afraid to call her on her b.s.
ketostix I'm kind of surprised DJs are making excuses and cop outs for them (women) too.[/QUOTE said:---------------------------------------
I agree..., women are highly killed at making excuses for their own behavoir - they hardy need our help too.
*** We need to be wary of getting caught up in fashionable pop psychology.
Dr Phil says , " We teach people how to treat us ". Mmm ! if only it was that easy. Anyone ever had a realtionship with a BPD G/f or an NPD parent ? I have. They act out of their pathology - my attempts to "teach then how to treat me " was a dismal failure.
The popularity of the concept of being "the best to attract the best" is also simplistic and "faddish" thinking . IT is likely that we, as we improve, could even attract more pretenders who want some of our preceived glory to be bestowed on them.After all, rich men attract golddiggers .Being better does NOT nean that we will attract BETTER women. WE may in fact attract more accomplised manipulators and users who want some of what we now have, and this is exactly why we need to be clear about who we want and what we want in a QUALITY woman to eliminate the fakers .
Human behaviour is NOT an exact science and has never been - to treat is as such is academic agrandisement.
I wish that those on this board who are so enamored of their own psych wisdom were back on the field in 2007 and playing the dating game instead of sermonizing to us from the bleachers.
Beautifully put. The 1% that are "quality" by the OP standard have other issues, not the least of which is lack of femininity. Fickle behavior is practically a requirement for a female personality.Colossus said:I couldnt agree more on the integrity issue. I think that integrity is more of a natural quality in men, meaning it is a product of both our genetics and our upbringing. Women are raised differently, treated differently in social matters, and are obviously cognitively assimilar to men.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
:yes:Colossus said:It is easy to take your own lack of understanding in dealing with women and the difficulties it creates and simply project that onto a given woman (or women), saying they are 'low quality'. It alleviates you of the responsibility you have to change your perspective.
my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.Interceptor said:Penny,
see if you can include some of your thoughts on women's sh*t tests, and how women qualify men, and especially how in your opinion and experiences, the best strategies to get through them.
I usually say something sarcastic back, or don't acknowledge it.
But I've had some real zingers in my time.
No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.my thoughts on tests, are basically , just a way to get guys to do what a woman wants them to do. this is basic woman logic for us.
no, sometimes they are not complex things. i wish i had a cup of coffee... means make me some coffee . it has nothing to do with any other future manipulation, except for coffee and you will now be deemed the official coffee maker.ketostix said:No, because if the guy does what she "wants" in the test it's not really what she wants. All she had to do was ask clearly and nicely for what she wanted. It's really just a two fold tactic, it's to manipulate and deceive a guy into doing other things down the line, or it's a test to see how much he can be manipulated.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ketostix said:Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
She left out the main and only reason for a woman's infidelity - horish behavior/mindset! Only marry a virgin!!!ketostix said:Take a look at this http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.