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The myth of 8 hours of sleep

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I want to do that 23 & me test. I have had abysmal sleep and it is hard enough to get anywhere near 8hrs. Since fasting it changed for me. Personally, I have to disagree. I have seen some stuff and the improvements from more sleeping has been the betterment of my life. I have better cognitive function, no brain fog, PRs in the gym, top shelf game, and a variety of leveling up.

I am going to get my 23 & me done + transcribed. I am curious of what the result is and I suspect markers will show the need to get MORE not less sleep. I think it's very individual. I am deezed and highly motivated to get **** done. The population is fat, low T, emo, and a slob. Less sleep and more activity is required. The better my sleep, the better my output and performance.
 

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I want to do that 23 & me test. I have had abysmal sleep and it is hard enough to get anywhere near 8hrs. Since fasting it changed for me.
Out of interest what improved for you in terms of fasting?
 

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Out of interest what improved for you in terms of fasting?
110% aesthetics. 6pack. Lean but deezed. My sleep is ****ed from time to time but a lot better. I have not looked this good since my mid twenties. I went super sayain over global pandemic. All calisthenics and gymnastics ring workouts. I workout hard so its a combo. I cannot suggest that enough.

If you never have tried. Been getting hit on at dog parks and post workouts out doors. Its like fishing with dynamite. It's a young man's game but fasting has super charged my metabolism like a reset.

Test your body. Mate, i don't **** with sleep. My sleep is elusive. You maybe a outlier and able to sleep little without consequences. That's 1% of the population. I am not that fortunate. I get 4 if lucky most of my life. I combat this with meditation, rest, fasting, lifting and rest.

I am more cognizant about sleeping well. Slee9 mask, Epsom salts, dark room, cut blue light, red light lamb, dark mode on tv and phone, etc. I highly recommend why we sleep by matt walker and jre podcast 1109.
 

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I don’t screw with sleep. I have had blood work done when I was sleeping 4-5 hours a night.. cortisol was high, testosterone low, growth hormone was low and dhea low

6 months later retest after a few months of 8-9 hours of sleep a night. Cortisol perfect, testosterone jumped a few hundred, growth hormone went much higher and same with dhea
 

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I want to do that 23 & me test. I have had abysmal sleep and it is hard enough to get anywhere near 8hrs. Since fasting it changed for me. Personally, I have to disagree. I have seen some stuff and the improvements from more sleeping has been the betterment of my life. I have better cognitive function, no brain fog, PRs in the gym, top shelf game, and a variety of leveling up.

I am going to get my 23 & me done + transcribed. I am curious of what the result is and I suspect markers will show the need to get MORE not less sleep. I think it's very individual. I am deezed and highly motivated to get **** done. The population is fat, low T, emo, and a slob. Less sleep and more activity is required. The better my sleep, the better my output and performance.
what is that test about
 

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I don’t screw with sleep. I have had blood work done when I was sleeping 4-5 hours a night.. cortisol was high, testosterone low, growth hormone was low and dhea low

6 months later retest after a few months of 8-9 hours of sleep a night. Cortisol perfect, testosterone jumped a few hundred, growth hormone went much higher and same with dhea
I never did the test but I have noticed a 85% decrease in output on my workout. No PRs. Its not a good time. I have always been a night owl. Sleep got ****ed at like 15. I have had to work on it ever since.

Fight club is epic. It is accurate on insomnia, delusional, and psychopathy from a lack of sleep. Granted, the narrator is insane. I suspect a lack of sleep is a temporary way of ****ing one's head up.


Give it a try bro.
 

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I never did the test but I have noticed a 85% decrease in output on my workout. No PRs. Its not a good time. I have always been a night owl. Sleep got ****ed at like 15. I have had to work on it ever since.

Fight club is epic. It is accurate on insomnia, delusional, and psychopathy from a lack of sleep. Granted, the narrator is insane. I suspect a lack of sleep is a temporary way of ****ing one's head up.


Give it a try bro.
i worked mid night shift for 3 years! I could never sleep during the days. I probably averaged 2 hours a day when I was working. I was so tired I couldn’t tell what was real at times. It was one dream state!
 

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i worked mid night shift for 3 years! I could never sleep during the days. I probably averaged 2 hours a day when I was working. I was so tired I couldn’t tell what was real at times. It was one dream state!
Been there in lucid mode. Never had nights. I wont do it.

I use to sabotage sleep and slam *****s. I don't sabotage myself nor purpose for *****. It's not worth it.
 

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I don’t screw with sleep. I have had blood work done when I was sleeping 4-5 hours a night.. cortisol was high, testosterone low, growth hormone was low and dhea low

6 months later retest after a few months of 8-9 hours of sleep a night. Cortisol perfect, testosterone jumped a few hundred, growth hormone went much higher and same with dhea
Sleep is so underrated when it comes to this stuff. People don't get that lack of sleep is literally one of the most stressful things you can do to your body. Which is why your cortisol levels were high and the others low...cortisol is the stress hormone. Lack of sleep throws your natural rhythms out of whack completely.

Probably 70% of people would see far more results from sleeping 8 hours than doing anything else. Not changing or increasing their workouts, looking at their diets, etc etc...just sleep.
 

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The thing is this. Don't mess with your sleep, period. However, your 18 year old self probably needs 8+ hours for optimal functioning, but your 35 year old self only needs 7 so don't panic just because you don't get to those 8 hours as a hard and fast rule. It will vary from person to person and period in life, the body is very good at getting what it needs. I rarely manage to get more than 7 hours nowadays and i know from my parents that they need less and less sleep for every decade.

@DEEZEDBRAH, fasting is great. What kind of fast do you do? Hardcore or intermittent?
 

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18 hour days for like all of my life, carbs made me crash but going keito removed the crash and now I'm even more productive than before muahaha
 

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The amount of sleep you need is dependent on your diet and lifestyle. When I was in the military I got 4-5 hours of sleep a night but my vitals were always solid because my diet was designed by a nutritionist and my lifestyle consisted of daily workouts.

The key is how long it takes you to fall asleep, and the quality of your sleep. I would close my eyes and immediately fall asleep within minutes because I spent all day working hard. Then I would wake up 5 hours layer of deep REM sleep feeling 100% refreshed.

Another key is to burn yourself out everyday pursuing your purpose.

So many people have a hard time sleeping because they spend all day on social media and netflix. They are not burning their energy doing something productive.

I've always believed that you should be dead tired at the end of the night from being productive.
 

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i worked mid night shift for 3 years! I could never sleep during the days. I probably averaged 2 hours a day when I was working. I was so tired I couldn’t tell what was real at times. It was one dream state!
Years ago, I quit a job when they wouldn’t take me off night shift.
 

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I am a morning person. Always have been. 95% of the time I’m asleep within minutes of my head hitting the pillow.
 

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I ensure deep "REM" sleep by engineering a pre-sleep method of concoction taylor-made (researched via youtube mainly from motivationaldoc) or just simply a sip of Nyquil-knockoff to put me down within 10-20 minutes (no twisting and turning/thinking). Also, if I have worked long hours, say more than 10 than I am probably inevitably gonna fall asleep in my massage chair which gives me deep sleep. I dream a Lot since I've started ensuring a deep sleep 3 or so years ago. Taking Magnesium Threonate or French Maritime Pine Bark extract can make me dream/go in to REM too. How you Feel waking up (not groggy, but ready-to-go) is important too. It's not how Long you sleep but how when you wake up you're ready to snap to it (as your body/mind is Healed like a lithium battery is recharged).

I'm ready to workout now after pretty good sleep though only 5-6 hours, though I usually get 7-8. Went to bed at 1:45 AM woke up at 7:20 AM, dreaming heavily of course.

This workout is gonna be a b!tch cause I'm adding more today, more and different ab-work and running, as well as a new pullup bar so I don't have to rely on the neighborhood park which I used to have to run to.
 

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average 4-5 of sleep daily due to 3 work sched, need some funds to pay some bills. I think I used this time of sleep already, when I get 6-8hours of sleep during weekends I felt tired when I woke up.

so for me, I get active in 4-5 hours of sleep. Still I can manage to minimal workout but most important, keep hydrated and have discipline of foods I eat and good supplements as well.
 
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