The Most Important Thread I'll ever write

[Reyaj]

So I'm on page 17 of my review of my past approach journal. This is significant because this was the time I really got into the flow of approaching and securing phone numbers. There's going to be a lot theories coming from this point on. I am thinking several may end up being redundant so I think at the end I'll perhaps list all the theories out and revise the list.

Anyway on page 17 I had wrote about picking up a girl who'd later I end up having sex with. She would be 1 of 2 girls I ended up laying as a result of that journal. So anyway to protect the names of the innocent (lol) I'll call this girl NOLA.

I had picked her up telling her someone was peeing in the sink and got escorted out... I guess I won't post a new theory on this because I think I previously posted you can use a situational opener... ok maybe I'll will actually make it the following and then amend them all when I am done.

Theory 74 - Situational or Observational openers work well. Make sure to multi thread after
Examples - NOLA and so many others

Now reading about our dates after on the page further here are more

Theory 75 - Silence or Awkward pauses on dates might not be bad. Do not get nervous or uncomfortable if this occurs, you can wait for the girl to say something too rather then feel you need to push the conversation.

Examples - NOLA, Orlando business trip tinder meet girl, probably several others but I'm hung over now and those pop to mind

Theory 76 - Sometimes texts don't always go through or sometimes a girl for whatever reason may not respond but still be interested. If you haven't heard from a girl in a bit don't be afraid to send a follow up text... I'd keep it light and joking though...

Examples - NOLA (I did not come across nice though luckily her IL in me was high), Big Lindsay with hot face, probably others again hung over.

Theory 77 - Girls look different depending on the day. Unless they look hideous at least give them 3 chances on their appearance.

Examples - NOLA, Italian Maria, and others!

Theory 78 - If a girl gives you direct compliments or mentions anything along the lines of enjoying their time with you it is an indicator of interest.

Examples - So many..... NOLA, Hot Stef, Katie B, lots of others!

Theory 79 - If a girl takes a while leaving your car after a date, it is an IOI and she may be waiting for you to make a move.

Examples - So many, NOLA, Italian Maria, so many others

Theory 80 - A girl you meet out may be interested in you but still talk and dance with other guys. Don't sweat it and act unphased.

Examples - NYC Latin girl, Russian Casino Club MILF, Oneitis Melisa

Examples - NOLA,

 

[Mazer]

Quality post. Thanks for putting it together.
I have a theory, a woman who doesn’t text you first after your first date, her interest isn’t high enough and you will be doing most of the work.

 

[Reyaj]

Quality post. Thanks for putting it together.
I have a theory, a woman who doesn’t text you first after your first date, her interest isn’t high enough and you will be doing most of the work.

While that's a pretty general paradigm I have to say my first inclination is to agree with this... The key in what you wrote is the "doing most of the work" though... There could be girls that are still interested but either expect a certain level of supplication or consciously are playing games. I think I'll get to examples of this later in the thread, but there are already 2 girls that are coming to mind

 

[KindredSpiritzz]

So many times I've held myself back from escalating as much as I could when I had physical intimacy with women. All too often I never got any further with them after not capitalizing on it.

I remember 3 women i could of had sex with and for various reasons didnt pursue it fully in the moment. I never got a 2nd shot at any of them and to this day i regret not taking my chance when i had it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

First and foremost. Thank you. For taking the time big brother. This are all great , I mean GREAT POINTS with wich I can all agree.
Except for #4 building rapport asking questions through text.. mm I've found out , IMO statemenfy are better. Just my opinion
Golden stuff again

Both can work...I play question games with women over text sometimes and they LOVE them and are super excited to actually meet in person.

Key is to ask interesting, unique questions that make them think.

 

[Reyaj]

I remember 3 women i could of had sex with and for various reasons didnt pursue it fully in the moment. I never got a 2nd shot at any of them and to this day i regret not taking my chance when i had it.

Me too.. It seems as if you don't strike when the iron is hot they seem to want to play the slow game.. Probably a combination of ASD and backwards rationalizations. Now that I type that out perhaps that's the formula to what's commonly known as shvit tests

Both can work...I play question games with women over text sometimes and they LOVE them and are super excited to actually meet in person.

Key is to ask interesting, unique questions that make them think.

Yes the question game has been gold for me. I've found that you should still try to meet sooner than later though, I've had girls literally run out of questions to ask when I've had to stall.

 

[Reyaj]

It's been a while since I updated this thread and I'm way behind schedule on completing it as usual. I have some time now so picking up from page 18 of my approach journal..

Theory 81 - IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DATING you can choose to tolerate some flaky behavior SO LONG THAT THE GIRL DOES ALL THE FOLLOW UP and does not flake again

Examples - NOLA,

Theory 82 - Social Media social proof is a double edge sword... The preselection will make some girls more attracted to you but might turn off others think you are a player. IF YOU FEEL A GIRL MIGHT BE LOSING IL IN YOU ITS WORTH A SHOT!

Examples - NOLA seemed both turned on but aloof but then I ended up banging her... Southern European Milf still wanted my junk but called me out on how disgusting it was and started playing games acting like she was talking to other men... She was a psycho anyway. Rachel who blew me in a bathroom stall at a bar digged it! Hot Tall Michigan girl seemed into me still but called me out on it acting like I was a player. Artsy Rachel hooked up with me... Same Birthday girl got turned off. Irish MILF got turned off at first but then started talking to me again... we will see who that plays out. Recently hot divorced girl from abusive ex husband seems to be into it. We'll see how that plays out as well.

Theory 83 - If a girl invites you over to her place unexpectedly GO IF YOU WANT A SHOT AT HOOKING UP!
Examples - NOLA, Syrian Lawyer, Rachel who blew me in bathroom, STD Nicole (didn't bang luckily but she wanted me to)

Theory 84 - If a girl invites you over to her place TRY to MAKE a Move... If you don't nothing may happen....
Examples - NOLA (I banged her at a later time but probably could have when she first invited me to her place), Rachel girl from my hometown I used to gets boners for.... I kissed her at the end of our date should have tried earlier on when she was near me (why am I such a pvssy!) Italian Nicole best smelling girl of all time... I should have at least tried something wtf!!!!!! Tatiana... hot spanish girl.. I did make out with her in her friends bed but I should have been more aggressive.

Theory 85 - You don't always have to kiss close a girl on the first date... she may still be interested.
Examples - NOLA, Latin Club Sherly, Italian Best Smelling girl, Katie booty call, Italian Maria whom prompted my approach thread.. many others

Theory 86 - Girls who are interested in you may in fact play games
Examples - Latin Club Sherly (admitted she didn't want to call me because she didn't want to seem all over me), heavy Lindsay with hot face and huge knockers... she flat out admitted to me she was playing hard to get when I called her out on her behavior. She ended up inviting me to her place a few days after which I ended up not going to. I never had another opportunity with her see Theory 83 lol

Theory 87 - Girls that don't appreciate your efforts and expect more aren't worth it!
Examples - Latin club sherly, ex Italian LTR (1st marriage dilemma post)... probably others but those are the two that stand out in my mind basically saying I didn't "try" enough when I went out of my way on dates.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok on page 19 of my approach journal..

Theory 88 - If a girl gets dragged away by her friends you can still go for it but being direct and asking for the number is best!
Examples - TV Reporter (probably some others I've done it too as well)

Theory 89 - You can quickly get a girl's phone number as they are leaving or if you are leaving the venue. Just act like it's a natural occurence you are noticing them (and often it will be)
Examples - Whoever I wrote about on page 19 of approach journal lol, Rich Heavy Jewish Girl, Ex I was engaged to, Slvtty looking club girl I should have kissed closed instead of # closed

Theory 90 - If you have a girl in isolation escalate sexually and do whatever you can to get the lay (if you want it)
Examples - Nola who I beded but thinking more of the shvts I missed like Artsy Rachel, High School Rachel, Hot South American girl, Polish girl from college

Ok still on page 19 where I got the TV news reporter's # so I'll pick up there I have to run darn it!

 

[Reyaj]

Theory 91 - Don't leave voicemails for girls you meet on first contact.
Examples - Jewish Guitar Bar girl, Philly Italian Gina, Hot Stripper I made out with (he gangster boyfriend heard it and threatened me)

I'll pick up from page 20 from the approach journal.

 

[Reyaj]

Theory 92 - A little persistence can yield results if there's slight lapses in communication. Just make sure there is some reciprocation on their part.
Examples - TV Journalist girl, blonde Mexican I'm sure several others but those come to mind right now

Theory 93 - Bartenders are hard to fast # close lol. I mean if you see them once and try to just ask them for their #
Examples - Hot colombian bartender, bartender from page 20 of my approach journal

Theory 94 - Bold action like a cold approach may yield future results even though initially appears like it's not going anywhere.
Examples - I ended up banging the brazilian girl my friend got the number of when the two girls I approached in the set weren't interested in me.

Theory 95 (I am sure I mentioned this earlier in some form but I'll edit all these more concisely when I am done) - GIRLS YOU MEET OUT MAY LOOK BETTER OR WORSE THAN YOU REMEMBER, ESPECIALLY WHEN DRINKING LOL
Examples - Colombian/Italian Stacey (she also proactively texted me after we met up that she had a good time more proof on my earlier theory), Rosetta

Theory 96 - Avoid food dates as first dates!
Examples - So many...... lol Ashley the big city girl who's friend texted me bs when I told her off is the first coming to mind per the journal. I should have tried to just make out with her at the bar! She is further proof to the earlier theory I posted about young girls who go out actively not being a good investment But yeah so many early on.... Dinner stinks cause you can't kino and obviously more expensive than drinks or coffee.

Theory 97 - Keep your cool if a girl doesn't respond to a text who is a bit aloof here and there.
Examples - So many! Per the approach journal I'm looking at big city Ashley who still had some IL before I blew it... but there's been many others. Most of the time though I think these girls have low IL but I guess you never know. This is always a challenge for me.

Theory 98 - If a girl takes time leaving your car she probably wants a kiss.. (I know this is in HITCH but so true)
Examples - So many! Colombian/Italian Stacey, British Philly girl, No curve Nicole gosh so many!!!!!

Ok will pick up from page 21. I say this so I know where to start from when I log back on here. hoping to make more progress!

 

[Reyaj]

Theory 99 - When approaching/picking up a girl can be flirty and talkative to you.. basically showing all positive signs but still not be interested in you. Always swing the bat if in doubt or assume the sale

Theory 100 - Girls will say they have a boyfriend if they really don't if they aren't interested.

One of my first girlfriends told me this and it happend to me on page 21 of my approach journal. It might almost be 50/50 when you get this line from a girl you are kicking game to.

Theory 101 - After kissing a girl the first time if she pulls back a bit and acts a little shy or coy, she may be interested and is doing so not to get too worked up.

Example - Colombian girl from page 21 I watched football with, Polish girl who my friend married her sister, Ohio Abby

Theory 102 - If a girl has high enough interest in you, you can get a way with a little directness/being upset

Example - Big city girl page 21

Theory 103 - A girl may or may not reach out to you after a missed call and still be interested.

Example - Heavy swedish girl and Colombian girl from hometown

Theory 104 - If a girl is showing you some follow up attention but is hesitant about meeting up, proposing a double date with her and a friend can work to get her out.

Examples - Portuguese Patricia, my current girl,

Theory 105 - Girls you go out with for the first or second time will throw a shvit test.. basically they pull back a little even though they are interested. I am convinced this is a normal defense mechanism for a girl..

I HAVE NOT FOUND AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO BEAT THIS! I will have to post on this separately to get feedback.

Will pick up from Page 23 next

 

[samspade]

Great stuff!