"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nighthawk said:
LS style responses are very similar to what you may be confronted with in the real world. It may be useful to explore and frame the arguments here. Interesting at least.
True. Yes it was interesting and I did my fair share of argument. Even went to loveshack and posted defending SS.

BUT--after a few days of arguing back and forth with these ladies, it reminds me to make sure I never follow the urge to justify or explain myself to a woman.

chick: "That site is full of woman-bashing and guys who say that women have nothing of value to say when it comes to giving men advice on relationships. I find it offensive and evolutionarily backwards and----

reset: "It's a guy thing, I don't expect you to understand. Give me a back-rub".

(dramatic pause) "wait how do you know what message boards I'm visiting?".
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Burrito Supreme said:
Maybe generalization is not what I am thinking of, but I am talking about those who think that their advice is right and that everyone elses is incorrect and/or inferior to theirs.

I read alot of "all women/men are this" or "most women/men are that."

Thats a huge difference from "most of the women/men that I have dealt with are this or that".
I think all women are all that but only some men are all that.
 

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Burrito Supreme said:
What?:crazy: :crackup: :kick:
ahaha I was responding to this:

"most of the women/men that I have dealt with are this or that".

Got that?:crackup:
 

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Honestly, not sure. I completely have agreed with brother McAvoy here. I don't see what good it did to go busting over there. Two completely different sites "marketed" at a different audience. I don't think many people would be open to both. You either relate more to one or to the other, with a few exceptions of course.

If an intelligent dialogue/understanding can come from all of this, well I would applaud that. But in the end, I don't see that anyone's firm positions will be changed. I really don't.

I can scream from the rooftops how I know what I want and I got it. I can insist that rudeness doesn't "work" for me, etc. etc. etc. I probably won't be believed. And I probably won't be believed when I say that most of the "techniques" here would only work on someone quite young...under 25 for the most part. In the end, though the tricks will backfire.

Our two sites do espouse self-empowerment. I do see a lot of "playing the victim" though here...although I've seen it on LS too.

Anyway, good question. And I'm really not sure I answered it but it's food for further thought.
Fair enough. Who started it all?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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slowgold said:
ahaha I was responding to this:

"most of the women/men that I have dealt with are this or that".

Got that?:crackup:
I know. I just wanted to try out some of the cool smileys.
 

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Rex Man said:
Fair enough. Who started it all?
Your brothers would know better than I but I'd say it was that Victory guy (read his posts) and Ketostyx maybe...not sure though. One of your moderators took part and many others.
 

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Your brothers would know better than I but I'd say it was that Victory guy (read his posts) and Ketostyx maybe...not sure though. One of your moderators took part and many others.
I see.....................SS FTW.
 

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Rex Man said:
I see.....................SS FTW.
What did they win?

I'd like to make another point here too. What many of you may not know is that women go through a lot of the same BS that you guys do.

If we're too nice, we're screwed. Men love bytches after all. You don't want the "nice girls." You crap all over them. I should know...it's only after I turned into a bytch that I started getting the respect I was after. I played a lot of the same games you guys do. Sure it works for awhile but then it always get ugly...always. No ifs ands or buts about it.

You'll see.

The trick is finding a balance between the nice guy many of you probably are, and standing up for yourselves when you need to. Do that, and you'll have the best chance at getting what you want...in all areas of your life.

And that applies to both men AND women.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MacAvoy said:
Its settled then SS rules LS! End of discussion!




ps I wish I was a mod so I could lock this thread
You're funny Mac! Well, I'll say this..you rule in emoticon variety and less restrictive moderation. I do like that. But I still prefer LS for the variety of different viewpoints from both sexes.
 

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slowgold said:
What did they win?

I'd like to make another point here too. What many of you may not know is that women go through a lot of the same BS that you guys do.

If we're too nice, we're screwed. Men love bytches after all. You don't want the "nice girls." You crap all over them. I should know...it's only after I turned into a bytch that I started getting the respect I was after. I played a lot of the same games you guys do. Sure it works for awhile but then it always get ugly...always. No ifs ands or buts about it.

You'll see.

The trick is finding a balance between the nice guy many of you probably are, and standing up for yourselves when you need to. Do that, and you'll have the best chance at getting what you want...in all areas of your life.

And that applies to both men AND women.
UGHHH...

sadly this is the mentality with a lot of women my age 25-28.

i think most men like a confident women, who stands for what she believes in. not a bytch.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Its settled then SS rules LS! End of discussion!




ps I wish I was a mod so I could lock this thread
I hope thats not the mentality that you have IRL when arguing or debating with someone.
 

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DavenJuan said:
UGHHH...

sadly this is the mentality with a lot of women my age 25-28.

i think most men like a confident women, who stands for what she believes in. not a bytch.
You're so right about the last part. And it took me awhile to find a good balance.

But what did you mean about the women between 25-28...what's the mentality?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Burrito Supreme said:
I hope thats not the mentality that you have IRL when arguing or debating with someone.
You need to take a chill pill, untie the knot in your panties & realize I was joking. If you've seen any of my posts, I've been sticking up for a few LS members and have stayed completely out of the LS vs SS debate except to say its pointless.

See my sig for further evaluation.
 

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MacAvoy said:
You need to take a chill pill, untie the knot in your panties & realize I was joking. If you've seen any of my posts, I've been sticking up for a few LS members and have stayed completely out of the LS vs SS debate except to say its pointless.

See my sig for further evaluation.
Burrito, you wear panties?:crackup: :crackup:
 

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MacAvoy said:
You need to take a chill pill, untie the knot in your panties & realize I was joking. If you've seen any of my posts, I've been sticking up for a few LS members and have stayed completely out of the LS vs SS debate except to say its pointless.

See my sig for further evaluation.
I do like your sig. Its probably one of the best that I have seen.

You have to remember that I am less than a week old on this message board and I have no idea who any of you are yet.

Everyone can perceive things differently on an internet message board because you don't have facial expressions or tone of voice to go by.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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