"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The Leg Lift
- Thread starter sedation
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
wavejams007
Master Don Juan
perhaps you are just reading into the situation just a little too much.Originally posted by sedation
I was just wondering if, when you're hugging a girl and she lifts one of her legs up, does it really mean something? Or is that just some bull I heard somewhere?
If it does mean something, what exactly does it mean?
Perhaps I am... I still wanna know whether it does, or at least could, mean something. Whether she meant anything by it or not.Originally posted by wavejams007
perhaps you are just reading into the situation just a little too much.
Greeaat... real helpful in helpin' me decode this myth. Thanks. :crackup:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Who said I was worried about it?Originally posted by Reagan
Here's what you can do instead of worring about useless crap. Jerk off. Very helpful.
wavejams007
Master Don Juan
Boner da Stoner
Master Don Juan
I was wondering what it means when I am sitting down and a girl hops onto my knee and starts rubbing her crotch on me... is she trying to be alpha and leave her scent?Originally posted by sedation
I was just wondering if, when you're hugging a girl and she lifts one of her legs up, does it really mean something? Or is that just some bull I heard somewhere?
If it does mean something, what exactly does it mean?
Seriously, that's just a dumb question man, it's like an AFC who learns to sit up straight.
Some Dumb Blonde(SDB): I was talking to my guy friend and he was sitting up straight and he looked very relaxed, was he trying to tell me something?
Originally posted by Boner da Stoner
I was wondering what it means when I am sitting down and a girl hops onto my knee and starts rubbing her crotch on me... is she trying to be alpha and leave her scent?
Seriously, that's just a dumb question man, it's like an AFC who learns to sit up straight.
Some Dumb Blonde(SDB): I was talking to my guy friend and he was sitting up straight and he looked very relaxed, was he trying to tell me something?
Yeah... uh... you could'a just said it actually is some bull I heard somewhere. Damn... you people suck at answering a simple question. 'Bet you think you're cool **** answerin' my question with some bull like that, huh?Originally posted by sedation Or is that just some bull I heard somewhere?
Ok... sure... what would Sally say about it?Originally posted by wavejams007
Sedation, ask Reagan what Sally would say about it.:crackup:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Well, Sally would say, she is the only girl for you. She'll please you in anyway you want. She doesn't judge you. She doesn't ***** and complain, and she doesn't PMS!!!!!Ok... sure... what would Sally say about it?
lets_do_this
Don Juan
Damn..
LOL. This is funny. I can't help it.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
God I love stupid people.
BlackJackal
Master Don Juan
:crackup: :crackup:Originally posted by Boner da Stoner
I was wondering what it means when I am sitting down and a girl hops onto my knee and starts rubbing her crotch on me... is she trying to be alpha and leave her scent?
Seriously, that's just a dumb question man, it's like an AFC who learns to sit up straight.
Some Dumb Blonde(SDB): I was talking to my guy friend and he was sitting up straight and he looked very relaxed, was he trying to tell me something?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Get your a$$ in the high school forum.Originally posted by cffrmw
sorry about all these *******s dude, they seem to forget that they were once new to this whole thing too (and in most cases still are). Basically, it's common sense to figure it out though - if she lifts her leg when she hugs other people, it means nothing. If she only lifts her leg when she hugs you, it means something, but no way to tell what. If I were you I would just make a move b/c then you'll know. Anyways, I g2g cuz I'm meeting a girl at starbucks like, now...