The Law of Attraction

[ChrizZ]

Does it work?

 

[WhitePimp]

Abso****inglutely.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Abso****inglutely.

And for those who think its hocus pocus, the psychology of it all is pretty much flawless.

 

[speakeasy]

I watched The Secret. I think some parts of it make sense, though I'm not sure about all the metaphysical stuff about the universe delivering what you call out for and all that stuff.

The Law of Attraction is nothing new, it's just a repackaging of "I think therefore I am."

 

[ExcelNPrevail]

Yes, it works. We all aren't separated lifeforms on the planet. We all are just a bunch of atoms connected to each other.

EX.When you type on a computer as soon as you hit the keys there is no division in between your finger and keys. Its all one with the other. (Not trying to sound hippish...)

But just don't chase things directly. And you'll be good.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

it only works if you use it to program your mind CORRECTLY with stuff you want where YOU ARE IN CONTROL of getting it. (As described in psychocybernetics.)

One of the drawbacks of the human brain is that because it sacrifices accuracy for speed, humans generally make a lot of cause/effect linkages that have no logical connection.

Fooled by Randomness is a good primer on the subject.

 

[slaog]

Does it work?

Yes it works. I believe in it 100%. Look at sport as an example. Some sports players are not as good as others but they always seem to win. They are called lucky etc but nobody mentions their winning mentality. They visualise themselves winning and that makes them more determined.


I used LOA to attract a certain type of woman into my life and my girlfriend is everything I was looking for. I'm now concentrating on other things too.


I recomment reading Michael Losier's law of attraction book. Feel free to send me a PM if anybody wants to know more.

 

[user43770]

Look at sport as an example. Some sports players are not as good as others but they always seem to win. They are called lucky etc but nobody mentions their winning mentality. They visualise themselves winning and that makes them more determined.

Examples, please.

 

[slaog]

Examples, please.

The examples are there for everybody to see. Take any sport and see who the top sports people are in that. They are at the top not by chance. All those people believed they could get to the top. They visualised themselves at the top, winning things.


Why is one person more determined then another? It's because that person strongly wants to achieve a dream.

 

[speakeasy]

The examples are there for everybody to see. Take any sport and see who the top sports people are in that. They are at the top not by chance. All those people believed they could get to the top. They visualised themselves at the top, winning things.

They are at the top for a number of reasons. For athletes at the level is partly genes, partly your environment and how you were raised, partly your coach, party your ambition. It's not just pure ambition. I could give it 110% and tha doesn't mean I'm going to be a top athlete. I just don't have the genetics for it.

 

[f283000]

positive thinking does work, just don't expect the ferrari and the lottery as your reward or anything you want like the secret movie makes it seem you can get.

 

[slaog]

They are at the top for a number of reasons. For athletes at the level is partly genes, partly your environment and how you were raised, partly your coach, party your ambition. It's not just pure ambition. I could give it 110% and tha doesn't mean I'm going to be a top athlete. I just don't have the genetics for it.

I'm not saying if you visualise yourself flying you will fly. Common sense is needed too.


It's what seperates the top athletes from others. You always hear about wasted talent etc etc. So ask yourself why do some people waste talent and their lives in general and others to well and achieve success.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

No.

Because the Law of Attraction is diametrically opposed, and inversely proportional to the Law of the Jinx. Thus they cancel one another out.

 

[ketostix]

I think there is some psychology behind thinking positive will help you perform better in life and it will attract positivity or induce positivity form others. But to say it's a law of attraction I think is a little extreme and might be confusing cause and effect. I mean, people who are successful or attractive are for a variety of reasons or triats. The Law of Attraction didn't cause it as much as it's an effect of being successful or having the traits of success. Thoughts and attitudes alone can only get you so far in a physical world.

 

[speakeasy]

You should check this out:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Story?id=2975835&page=1

 

[slaog]

You should check this out:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Story?id=2975835&page=1

An interesting article. The secret is a good introductio to the LOA but that is all. I think some people take things too literally and it's dangerous to be talking about curing cancer.


As I said, I'd recommend Michael Losier's book. The main difference between his book and the secret is that he says you cannot just wish for something and expect it to come along. You have to work on it every day. He also explains things more clearly then 'the secret'. He also ecplains that it's feelings that attract things to you. You cannot just say you want to have a girlfriend you need to feel like she is already there.


It's much easier to understand the science behind the secret if you see everything as energy. We are all energy. Everything physical is pure energy but it jusy appears physical to out senses. Atoms are just balls of energy and they are more then 99.99% empty. In quantum physics its proven that the mind can effect matter.


I understand when people say it's obvious that a positive mindset will make you do positive things and thats just because it's working on the inside. If you look beyond the "physical world" that we live in you will notice that it doesn't matter how the results are achieved the important thing is they are.


On this site everybody will agree that when you develop your inner game rules do not matter as much as before. You make your own rules and still the women come to you. This is because of the energy you radiate. Everybody has an energy and you'll attract to you people with similar energy. The guys with weak inner game (or low DJ energy) always manage to fvck up somehow. Thats why they get frustrated and say things like "I don't know why I said that" or "I fvcked up again" etc etc.

 

[user43770]

In my opinion, you're blowing smoke, slaog.

 

[slaog]

In my opinion, you're blowing smoke, slaog.

No prob


It would be a boring world if everybody had the same beliefs. I'm certain about the law of attraction because I have looked at it for a few years and looked at my own life. I also look at people.


I know a fella who started gambling a few years ago. He's not the brightest and he is thousands of Euro in dept now. The interesting thing about he is that when he first started gambling he started to win and kept winning for months. He was winning 10's of thousands of Euro. He bought a new car and everything. Another gambler I know said he couldn't understand how the guy was winning so much because he hadn't a clue of horses but everything thing he picked out was winning. The other guy said that he's end up losing everything because he was betting on everything he could.


Eventually after many months the winning run came to an end. He started to lose and now 2 or 3 years later is probably around 100,000e in debt. His luck ran out. Or was it luck. My belief is that when he first started gambling he believed and expected to win. He wasn't smart enough to know about odds etc so he attracted that winning run to his life.


By the way the winning run lasted months and involved 100's of bets. I always wondered why he was so lucky for those few months. Some people will call it a coincedence. If they want to believe in that and luck thats ok with me.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Casinos are full of guys with a positive mindset. The guys who own casinos are very glad they do.

 

[Deep Dish]

Slaog said:
It's much easier to understand the science behind [The Secret] if you see everything as energy. We are all energy. Everything physical is pure energy but it jusy appears physical to out senses. Atoms are just balls of energy and they are more then 99.99% empty. In quantum physics its proven that the mind can effect matter.

I don't want to belabor the point, since I thoroughly explained it here and here with academic citations, but there was no science in The Secret. Quantum physics does not support mind over matter, actually. While it's true the act of measuring something inherently can influence the properties of said measured thing, the mind plays no part. As Columbia University quantum physicist David Albert explains, the early 20th century saw a crisis in physics with the development of quantum physics, but the latter half of the century witnessed a resolution to the crisis and science is progressing back to clockwork mechanism.

I know a fella who started gambling a few years ago. He's not the brightest and he is thousands of Euro in [debt] now. The interesting thing about he is that when he first started gambling he started to win and kept winning for months. He was winning 10's of thousands of Euro. He bought a new car and everything. Another gambler I know said he couldn't understand how the guy was winning so much because he hadn't a clue of horses but everything thing he picked out was winning. The other guy said that he's end up losing everything because he was betting on everything he could.

Eventually after many months the winning run came to an end. He started to lose and now 2 or 3 years later is probably around 100,000e in debt. His luck ran out. Or was it luck. My belief is that when he first started gambling he believed and expected to win. He wasn't smart enough to know about odds etc so he attracted that winning run to his life.

Well, hot and cold streaks are perfectly explained by random probability, regardless of someone's education and cognitive awareness of probability statistics. Every poker player knows some nights are full of hot hands and other nights are complete crap, regardless of one's beliefs. Ask "Jesus" Chris Ferguson, one of the top poker players in the world and who holds a PhD in mathematics, and he will laugh at any suggestion the winnings and losses at gambling -- of any sort -- are predicated upon belief except in the very limited context of persistence and risk aversion. Gambling in particular is designed so the house always wins, disparaging even the most confident and believing players, sooner or later, to lose everything. Over the past few decades horse racing has been evolving to be more probability-based than horse-based, thanks to improvements of training which marginalize the differences between horses, but nonetheless streaks are still explained by probability theory.

There is also the possibility of cheating.