"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The kiss

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I met this 22 year old, blond haired green eyed beauty an few months ago.

I followed the rules, did the convo, the kino, the holding hands...then...after giving her a ride home from work I decide it's time to get the kiss.

As she is starting to get out, I gently put my hand on her shoulder and pull her to me.

She hesitates ever so slightly, then moved towdards me.

I kiss her gently...she kisses back...gives a little tongue as well.

Then she gets out, drops her stuff, picks it up and goes inside.

When she calls later she says "That was a nice kiss...it was short, brief".

She makes an excuse to get off the phone and says she'll call later. She doesn't.

I know she'll call tomorrow...I'm thinking about 'missing' a few of her calls.

Did something happen?...

AZ
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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We'll find out tomorrow...
 
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Once she kissed back, she lost control, at least temporarily, so she's playing some games, to rationalize it in her head. My guess is that you had plenty of opportunities to kiss her before you dropped her off, and didn't go for it, so it might have been a slight surprise to her when you pulled the trigger.

Wait a few days. My guess is she doesn't call tomorrow. Call her in a few days, and give her $hit for not being able to afford her phone bill, etc.
 
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She called...twice...took me out to lunch.

She kept casualiy touching me, much more than before.

Things are working as they should I guess.

She asked me for a ride to work / home tomorrow (her car is not running great).

Time for another, longer kiss...

Gangster is right...I had other opportunities.

Thanks...great board!

AZ
 
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Nothing bad happened. You showed you were a man and interested but did not keep desperately pushing to wring everything you could at that moment till she had to push you away. You took away her game. You showed you could control yourself. She doesn't know what to do. Any IL or attraction that was there has been turned up and you've added mystery.

Keep doing what guys don't normally do at times guys don't normally do it. Keep taking two steps forward then one back. Stay in control of yourself.

Expect things could get tense but stick to your style and you will learn what it is to be like most of the women you desire. Let her see what it is to be an AFC.

You WILL learn something.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thanks guys...I owe this site and the advice contained here everything...

She called me yesterday talking about how horney she was. I replied "I thought you were a sexual camel" to which she responded, "Even a camel has to drink once in awhile".

I'm going to leave it hanging for awhile. I'm driving her to work again tomorrow...mayde I'll go for a little squeeze of something nice...
 
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