"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The kiss

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I met this 22 year old, blond haired green eyed beauty an few months ago.

I followed the rules, did the convo, the kino, the holding hands...then...after giving her a ride home from work I decide it's time to get the kiss.

As she is starting to get out, I gently put my hand on her shoulder and pull her to me.

She hesitates ever so slightly, then moved towdards me.

I kiss her gently...she kisses back...gives a little tongue as well.

Then she gets out, drops her stuff, picks it up and goes inside.

When she calls later she says "That was a nice kiss...it was short, brief".

She makes an excuse to get off the phone and says she'll call later. She doesn't.

I know she'll call tomorrow...I'm thinking about 'missing' a few of her calls.

Did something happen?...

AZ
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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We'll find out tomorrow...
 
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Once she kissed back, she lost control, at least temporarily, so she's playing some games, to rationalize it in her head. My guess is that you had plenty of opportunities to kiss her before you dropped her off, and didn't go for it, so it might have been a slight surprise to her when you pulled the trigger.

Wait a few days. My guess is she doesn't call tomorrow. Call her in a few days, and give her $hit for not being able to afford her phone bill, etc.
 
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She called...twice...took me out to lunch.

She kept casualiy touching me, much more than before.

Things are working as they should I guess.

She asked me for a ride to work / home tomorrow (her car is not running great).

Time for another, longer kiss...

Gangster is right...I had other opportunities.

Thanks...great board!

AZ
 
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Nothing bad happened. You showed you were a man and interested but did not keep desperately pushing to wring everything you could at that moment till she had to push you away. You took away her game. You showed you could control yourself. She doesn't know what to do. Any IL or attraction that was there has been turned up and you've added mystery.

Keep doing what guys don't normally do at times guys don't normally do it. Keep taking two steps forward then one back. Stay in control of yourself.

Expect things could get tense but stick to your style and you will learn what it is to be like most of the women you desire. Let her see what it is to be an AFC.

You WILL learn something.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Thanks guys...I owe this site and the advice contained here everything...

She called me yesterday talking about how horney she was. I replied "I thought you were a sexual camel" to which she responded, "Even a camel has to drink once in awhile".

I'm going to leave it hanging for awhile. I'm driving her to work again tomorrow...mayde I'll go for a little squeeze of something nice...
 
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