"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Girlfriend Question

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ronjohn

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I've been dating a girl for a month or so. We've been on maybe 5 dates. We've kissed, had many good conversations, gone out to dinner, etc. To friends, I say she's my 'girlfriend' in passing, but she's not really my girlfriend. She is a girl I am dating. Yet we both are dating each other exclusively...

So the question is, How many dates are 'required' to ask someone to be your girlfriend? :trouble: I feel that I would like to get more serious with her, but I'm not sure if it's too early.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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WaterTiger

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The general consensus of this board is you NEVER ask if she'll be your girlfriend. You wait for HER to bring it up. That way you know she's into you.

There is no "required" number of dates to do anything.
 
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Jaxon

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Don't ask dude, she'll bring it up if she's interested. And quit calling her your girlfriend in passing, that's not helping your cause any. When and if she brings it up, brush it off. When she brings it up the second time, then you can talk about it.
 
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