"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Game Is In The Comfort - PUA

KneghtRyder

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Okay I can DHV, neg , put on some nice body language, and I show the body language of disinterest. I can ask fro the number, ....but I dont know how to proceed after that ?

what to do after you get the number, mystery says "the Game is in the comfort"

The openers/transitions/etc are comfortable, but People tell me THE REAL GAME IS AFTER you get the number.....

I dont know the 'strategy' , the game plan , the steps, after that if someone can delineate that ...that would

The one girl that didn't flake, I ended talking to her for like 10 -20 minutes..thats it...
some of my numbers have been flakes so far, but others haven't ...

any advice, any steps someone can give me.. because i find it really easy when you have a 'set of things to do' like mystery outlines or any books to follow....

do i just keep asking questions ? do I call them up and let them talk alot and just bounce the conversation, do I try to make for interesting conversation..and excactly how do i do that....do i make jokes, how can you do all this and still be considered alpha male??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Screw getting numbers. Go for the makeout NOW. Take her home TONIGHT. Push for it, mess it up, learn, and go do it again!
 

KneghtRyder

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raiz said:
Screw getting numbers. Go for the makeout NOW. Take her home TONIGHT. Push for it, mess it up, learn, and go do it again!
awesome , :)

more opinions !
 

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I think your first mistake is assuming that the "game" changes after you get the number. Think about it...if all the things you mentioned work before you get the number, utilize those things after you get the number. Just keep that indifferent attitude going and be assertive...and don't think so much. The biggest "game" is the mental game that all DJ's must overcome.
 

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TheStew said:
I think your first mistake is assuming that the "game" changes after you get the number. Think about it...if all the things you mentioned work before you get the number, utilize those things after you get the number. Just keep that indifferent attitude going and be assertive...and don't think so much. The biggest "game" is the mental game that all DJ's must overcome.

according to mystery, once we've establish attraction we can cool down the Negs/DHV...but we still do them but to a lesser amount. the next parts are building comfort....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This thread breaks my heart. Your mind is sick. Sick with PUA disease.

Listen to yourself:

KneghtRyder said:
Okay I can DHV, neg , put on some nice body language, and I show the body language of disinterest....

I dont know the 'strategy' , the game plan , the steps...

any steps someone can give me.. because i find it really easy when you have a 'set of things to do' like mystery outlines or any books to follow...

do i just keep asking questions ? do I call them up and let them talk alot and just bounce the conversation, do I try to make for interesting conversation..and excactly how do i do that....do i make jokes, how can you do all this and still be considered alpha male??
These thoughts aren't normal my friend. Seduction does not work this way.

You cannot just jump out of the shadows, perform some memorized special moves and use them to bring unsuspecting females back to your nerd lair.

DHVs, negs, active disinterest etc. is useless to you because you have no foundation. These are just tools used to help bring out your best self but you do not even know who your best self is.

There is a disconnect in your mind between being yourself and attracting women. You will never truly succeed until you fix this.
 
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