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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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The Game Is In The Comfort - PUA

KneghtRyder

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Okay I can DHV, neg , put on some nice body language, and I show the body language of disinterest. I can ask fro the number, ....but I dont know how to proceed after that ?

what to do after you get the number, mystery says "the Game is in the comfort"

The openers/transitions/etc are comfortable, but People tell me THE REAL GAME IS AFTER you get the number.....

I dont know the 'strategy' , the game plan , the steps, after that if someone can delineate that ...that would

The one girl that didn't flake, I ended talking to her for like 10 -20 minutes..thats it...
some of my numbers have been flakes so far, but others haven't ...

any advice, any steps someone can give me.. because i find it really easy when you have a 'set of things to do' like mystery outlines or any books to follow....

do i just keep asking questions ? do I call them up and let them talk alot and just bounce the conversation, do I try to make for interesting conversation..and excactly how do i do that....do i make jokes, how can you do all this and still be considered alpha male??
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Screw getting numbers. Go for the makeout NOW. Take her home TONIGHT. Push for it, mess it up, learn, and go do it again!
 

KneghtRyder

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raiz said:
Screw getting numbers. Go for the makeout NOW. Take her home TONIGHT. Push for it, mess it up, learn, and go do it again!
awesome , :)

more opinions !
 

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I think your first mistake is assuming that the "game" changes after you get the number. Think about it...if all the things you mentioned work before you get the number, utilize those things after you get the number. Just keep that indifferent attitude going and be assertive...and don't think so much. The biggest "game" is the mental game that all DJ's must overcome.
 

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TheStew said:
I think your first mistake is assuming that the "game" changes after you get the number. Think about it...if all the things you mentioned work before you get the number, utilize those things after you get the number. Just keep that indifferent attitude going and be assertive...and don't think so much. The biggest "game" is the mental game that all DJ's must overcome.

according to mystery, once we've establish attraction we can cool down the Negs/DHV...but we still do them but to a lesser amount. the next parts are building comfort....
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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This thread breaks my heart. Your mind is sick. Sick with PUA disease.

Listen to yourself:

KneghtRyder said:
Okay I can DHV, neg , put on some nice body language, and I show the body language of disinterest....

I dont know the 'strategy' , the game plan , the steps...

any steps someone can give me.. because i find it really easy when you have a 'set of things to do' like mystery outlines or any books to follow...

do i just keep asking questions ? do I call them up and let them talk alot and just bounce the conversation, do I try to make for interesting conversation..and excactly how do i do that....do i make jokes, how can you do all this and still be considered alpha male??
These thoughts aren't normal my friend. Seduction does not work this way.

You cannot just jump out of the shadows, perform some memorized special moves and use them to bring unsuspecting females back to your nerd lair.

DHVs, negs, active disinterest etc. is useless to you because you have no foundation. These are just tools used to help bring out your best self but you do not even know who your best self is.

There is a disconnect in your mind between being yourself and attracting women. You will never truly succeed until you fix this.
 
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