The Game (book)

[rawson-1992]

Thinking about purchasing 'The Game' by Neill Strauss. Is it worth a read?

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Yes.. although the book was written 10 years ago and none of the "pickup lines" work anymore.. it is still a good read.

 

[LMFAO]

It's more about the scene in the early years than anything else. The game has changed considerably since then. In those days they would have these canned routines in true pick up artist style, whereas the modern day dating coaches are more principle based. It is not a self help book, the follow up The Rules of the Game is and isn't bad but also outdated somewhat.

 

[nathan z]

OFFICIAL STATEMENT from Christopher Hungryu Zement Smifson Jugatti III on abortion


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laws on protesters. due to the tension surrounding the abortion issue, all protesters must remain at least ten feet from any part of any building which allows abortions and there must be a barrier free path to the door. violators should be sent to jail for a minimum of twelve hours and a maximum of thirty days.


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MICHAEL R IS A HOMOSEXUAL


In the clinic. the doctors should get right to the operation. They should ask her one time are you sure. if she says yes she is sure, the operation must commence. i'm gay. the remains should be used for medical research. the doctors should have barrier free entrance and be free of harassment. sting operations should not be permitted.


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the world's leading abortion advocate

 

[Bingo-Player]

Its a good read however a lot of it won’t wash in today’s society

People are no longer as naive as they were 10 years ago and the book was also written when social media was in infancy

I also didn’t like Towards the end Strauss attempts to teach you a moral lesson which i found pointless and somewhat condescending

However there are some VERY interesting examples of how people’s minds work (especially women)

 

[sylvester the cat]

I found this a very difficult book to read. I don't know why. Probably because of the transition from blue to red thinking. The resistance from blue was strong. Didn't want to hear it.

I bought it 3 years ago and I'm still only half way through.

 

[zekko]

The Game changed my perception about women. It opened my eyes. Prior to reading that book, I had no idea that such a community of PUA's even existed. I was in my 30's when that book came out and my only complaint is, What took a guy so dam long to write something like this?

I'm certain that there were books on attracting women even when I was growing up, which were the 60s and 70s. I don't think they were mainstream though, guys would probably be embarrassed to buy such a book from the local book store back then.

I seem to recall seeing such books in the back of porno mags like Hustler or Penthouse or whatever. I never read one, so I don't know if they were really geared toward "pickup" or regular dating, or if the information in them was any good, or what.

I found this a very difficult book to read. I don't know why. Probably because of the transition from blue to red thinking.

I think it's a difficult read also. Mainly because it's so damn boring. Not saying it's bad, it's just kind of dull. I didn't find any of the characters particularly likeable, there was no one to root for, if you know what I mean.

 

[sylvester the cat]

I'm certain that there were books on attracting women even when I was growing up, which were the 60s and 70s. I don't think they were mainstream though, guys would probably be embarrassed to buy such a book from the local book store back then.

I seem to recall seeing such books in the back of porno mags like Hustler or Penthouse or whatever. I never read one, so I don't know if they were really geared toward "pickup" or regular dating, or if the information in them was any good, or what.


I think it's a difficult read also. Mainly because it's so damn boring. Not saying it's bad, it's just kind of dull. I didn't find any of the characters particularly likeable, there was no one to root for, if you know what I mean.

Yes now that you mention it, that is what I felt. Dull.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

I'm certain that there were books on attracting women even when I was growing up, which were the 60s and 70s. I don't think they were mainstream though, guys would probably be embarrassed to buy such a book from the local book store back then.

Interesting. I was very recently contemplating the sheer size of the pickup industry today, the absurdity of men willing to shell out in the thousands to have a guy coach them how to pick up women over the course of a few days, how it's linked to feminism, but more closely tied to what you wrote, when did this sort of thing begin to germinate? I mean, at what point did it begin to cross over from "just go over there and talk to her" to seduction techniques like "negging"? And I know we have "advice" reaching as far back as, say, Ovid ("If you want to be loved, be lovable"), but when did the systematization of seduction more or less begin?

 

[zekko]

when did the systematization of seduction more or less begin?

Good question. I really think that probably as long as there have been women, there have been men trying to figure out how to get with them. "Look, you grab her by the hair like this, and drag her into the cave like this..."

I remember hearing most of the advice on here or some variation of it at least when I was growing up. We went out and tried to pick up women. I don't recall ever thinking of it as being a "system" though. You just went out there with what you had, your looks and your personality, and hoped that she dug you. And if you wanted something, you had to go and get it, you had to take your shot. But it probably didn't get really "systemized" until the internet came around.

Most of the "system" just gathers information that was already there. The only newish concepts that I don't remember from growing up are "negs" and "sh!t tests".

 

[Between_The_Lines]

Good question. I really think that probably as long as there have been women, there have been men trying to figure out how to get with them. "Look, you grab her by the hair like this, and drag her into the cave like this..."

I remember hearing most of the advice on here or some variation of it at least when I was growing up. We went out and tried to pick up women. I don't recall ever thinking of it as being a "system" though. You just went out there with what you had, your looks and your personality, and hoped that she dug you. And if you wanted something, you had to go and get it, you had to take your shot. But it probably didn't get really "systemized" until the internet came around.

Most of the "system" just gathers information that was already there. The only newish concepts that I don't remember from growing up are "negs" and "sh!t tests".

lol @ the caveman line. I've browsed through the Game, but never given it a proper cover to cover reading. You're right, the writing wasn't exactly captivating from what I remember.

Thanks for sharing that bit about the books in your day. Really got me thinking further about the genealogy of pickup.

 

[hithard]

I remember reading ross jeffries back about 1998 which exploded and changed my view on how things were. Funny thing was stuff worked because women were not exposed to it. But pickup had to keep evolving fairly rapidly.

I also remember being on some web based chat (speed seduction maybe?) back in 99 and chatting tactics with guys like Mystery(magic tricks and peacocking were his thing). One incident I remember where he had chatted up some girls online and had convinced them to strip and lick while sending photos. Being on dial up it was a slow view. Man those days were a layfest.

I made the mistake of just getting a few parlor tricks, banging around and promptly attracted a AW. I was nowhere near ready for that and my inner game was still weak. I found sosuave about 2003ish under a different username and it filled in the missing pieces.
I think in the beginning it was putting pickup into some kind of structure so men could rap their heads around it. It gave you that added boost of confidence having a plan.

 

[Rainman4707]

One of the best books I've ever read

The Game really helped me with approaching women. I highly recommend it.

It's a book that once I started reading it, I couldn't put it down. Found it very interesting.

 

[hithard]

I have read somewhere that Strauss was a member here on SS. Anybody know if it's true?

I think a member of speed seduction. That was SS back in the day.

 

[JohnnyStorm]

I think it's an essential book to read especially when one considers what they want from their life with regard to seduction and women.

Mystery for example comes across as a truly tragic, disturbed and needy individual. This depite the fact that he has slept with hundreds of women.

Read it, try and keep an open mind and think, do i really want the lifestyle that the men in this book have?

 

[LMFAO]

I had another read of The Game. It makes for a better read when you have a better sense of the characters such as Tyler Durden and some of the other RSD crew.

It is very well written. I feel Style (Neil Strauss) comes across as a massive beta even after living with Mystery and all these other guys and learning all the routines. That's the problem they had at those stages, they paid attention to outer games but made very little effort on their inner game. When he had a girl he really liked (Lisa) he dropped every other girl before he even slept with her. Even after sleeping with a number of girls he was still completely insecure and lost with the general socio dynamics at play. Style ends the book, and leaves the house, thinking he knows what there is to know yet he gets into a relationship where his woman has him by the balls.

What the book also portrays is of the genius of both Mystery and Tyler, the latter a massive nerd following PUAs about, reading hundreds of books and internalising all of it.