"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The first date kiss - I think i mussed

theshist

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Is it too much to fast to use your tounge on the first and second kiss? I turned her face towards me and used a simple kiss then progressed from there. We smiled then talked for a bit, she realized she was really friggin late and then reached for a hug and a kiss. I used the same method, but she closed the kiss and left in a huff. I'm not sure if its because she was late or if I was moving to fast.

I know the only way to tell would be to read her body language, but the way she fled in such a hurry bothers me. I started to make a comment about when I'd get a chance to talk again, but she didn't seem interested, so I shut up and took off. I'll get my answer either for better or for worse tonite when (or if) she starts a chat on msn msngr. She was all smiles for the whole date, but it only takes one wrong move to destroy the whole thing. Gimme your take my situation, even if its just as simple as "eh, whatever". :rolleyes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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balla

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stop worriying you're fine. you kissed her she obivously wanted to kiss you. if something was up she would have said something, prob make a joke or sarcastic remark. which you would have then absorbed and responded with your DJ skills. I see no problems here. continue...


Balla
 

balla

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or you can use your OWN advice


From everything I've ever read on this site and from my personal experience, you're way behind! You need to read her moves and gauge her il, if shes into, kiss her! Don't be a afc, be a man! A man knows what he wants and takes it when he wants, so take your prize already!

-taken from another thread YOU responded too.
 

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Maybe I'm sick for laughing about this, but I was right.. the chika blocked me on msn. I definitly went too much too fast! Guess I'll stick to the light kiss on the lips and learn from this past mistake. I'm also starting to learn the value of keeping more than a one date going at a time, because as this last chika's blocking me, another one sent me an email w/ her ph #, beggin to get together sometime in the near future, and there's a second chika that I work with, that we're takin the same day off to hang out! :D

I guess I'll miss the last chika :eek:, but then again there's one word I learned from this site that applies well to a situation like this. It goes a lil' like this:

NEXT!!!!!!!
:cool:

-theshist
 

blienk

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There is no absolute rule on this. Some kids will look for the tongue on the first kiss, others won't want it. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out what kind of chick you're with and how high her interest is. Some things you just gotta figure out for yourself.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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