Dominus
Master Don Juan
Damn, what was that cartoon on Spike that had that?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The Dreaded Movie Date
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dominus
Master Don Juan
Re: If your physical game is good ...
Hey, I agree. Just so many guys here seem to think that its the worst kind of date...Originally posted by Bonhomme
... movie dates are money.
You're close to a gal, there's emotional and/or funny stuff happening on the screen, and the sexual tension can be killer. A good recipe for a bit of physical activity, if not during the movie, after you get back to your or her place.
Lots of movie dates have led to very physical evenings for me. There's not a particular technique to it, but you just sort of go with the flow, and if you get some touching going, viola! ... you're in!
movie dates i dunno, i remeber going on a date 2 months ago and this girl was telling me how guys used to always try to kiss her in the cinema and stuff like that maybe she wanted me to make the move or maybe she' was just a physco
Dominus
Master Don Juan
Nice. I did somehting like that, once, pulling away from the kiss. I would kiss her, but I wouldn't french or anything. Drove my girlfriend absolutely nuts! She kept trying and trying, and just kept my mouth shut.Originally posted by dementia
ok so i just got back from playing DJ lab rat. hahah in the movie the chick was like putting her face in my shoulder on the scary bits.. IL was high... so thought id let the tension build... would sit close, let her move in and pull away... went for a walk, was leanin against this rail and she leaned next to me....i didnt do anything just stood close while touching.. she started rambling and was nervous.. i just basked in it.
THEN drove her home and did this whole technique the way its said except....in the car... so held her hand while driving for 5-10 minutes.... got to her house and said "So u gona get me now"... she said no... i said "ok im gona get u then"....*still happily holding my hand at this point*(classic case of watching actions over words)
Leaned in kissed... pulled away after 10 secs n said save some for next itme... she kept leaning back in, not listening to me... made out more... I really had to get going so she left... i opened my window to ask directions back to the city while she was crossing the street.... she was stuttering and stumbling on her words like "uh its like uh left and *giggle*... um just go down and left um" hahaha was funny ****..Was definately going AWOL inside.... i told her to go inside and calm herself down
good times....
Eventually, she started pouting and I gave in, on the condition that she let me tickle her (most ticklish girl I've ever met, you could tickle her litterally anywhere). After that, it was basically the best make out session ever. Even as I was leaving, she kept it up. I was starting my car up and she got in my lap and started making out with me. It was a good night.
Of course, she dumped me about a week or two later.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Dominus
Master Don Juan
Haven't been on a date recently, actually. Too damned broke. Should be getting my first paycheck this week though.
It does look like good stuff though. I'd have to adapt it just a tad to my situation (paying for the movie tickets is a moot point, for example), but overall, looks good.
Don_Joffe
Senior Don Juan
Im currently in the process of editing my technique into far more detial and into far more options for each person;'s situation, when i wrote my technique out, it was rushed, but it should do for most for now and when ive done it properly it should work for ALL. Dude, dont pay for the movie ticket , lol. unless she expects it of you.
SpeedRunner
Don Juan
i've been on 3 movie dates. 2 of those movie dates i didnt watch the movie, me and her just made out through the whole thing. and neither one of us gave a **** whether people were watching us or not. so i really like movie dates now.
Dominus
Master Don Juan
The reason I said its moot is cuz my sister works at the local theater. I get in for free.
Besides, the girl I'm particularly interested in asking about again always insisted on paying for her ticket. She even got pissed off one time when I ended up paying after the free ticket deal fell apart.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
-HPNOTIQ-
Master Don Juan
That's from a Chapelle Show skit.
Back to the subject. Movies, fishing, iceskating...you can make a date out of walking each other's dog. What you need for the date to work is HAVE FUN WITH IT.
It is harder to guage IL, flirt, KINO and such at a movie. But don't get all caught up in your moves, ENJOY THE FREGGIN MOVIE! Hell, you probably ended up paying 18 bucks for it!
Use the movie as topics to talk about when you're having dinner after.
skinnydart
Master Don Juan
Are you kidding? Bring her a teddy bear? WTF?
silkkster: I like ur technique, I don't really get the whole "do you trust me" thing. I mean what does trust have to do with holding her hand? What would be some other things you could say right before you take her hand? And what do you do if after you say "do you trust me" she looks at you like "WTF are you planning on doing?!".
Don_Joffe
Senior Don Juan
tyiciol and skinnydart: silkster may have made that post but its MY technique, read the HEADING of silkster's POST next time.
To answer your questions
1. Who cares if you pay 18 bucks? If you get the kiss you will be
a) happy
b) she will be happy
c) after the first 20 minutes you can stop being nervous
d) its a freakin movie so what if you not 100% concentrated on it
2. After you pull her, continue to hold her hand and if you want give her a couple more kisses( it shud be easier now) and apply kino if you want, but now that you have pulled her and kissed her, you should be sorted.
3. Let her think "wtf" - its mysterious and thats what you want to be, spontaneous, different, unpredictable.
The do you trust me thing is if she trusts you , she shouldnt have a problem with you holding her hand.
Other options: Just take her friggin hand or apply KIN0 to her hand first. Or just be blattany honest - "Can i hold your hand"
To answer your questions
1. Who cares if you pay 18 bucks? If you get the kiss you will be
a) happy
b) she will be happy
c) after the first 20 minutes you can stop being nervous
d) its a freakin movie so what if you not 100% concentrated on it
2. After you pull her, continue to hold her hand and if you want give her a couple more kisses( it shud be easier now) and apply kino if you want, but now that you have pulled her and kissed her, you should be sorted.
3. Let her think "wtf" - its mysterious and thats what you want to be, spontaneous, different, unpredictable.
The do you trust me thing is if she trusts you , she shouldnt have a problem with you holding her hand.
Other options: Just take her friggin hand or apply KIN0 to her hand first. Or just be blattany honest - "Can i hold your hand"
dates = a waste of time and money.
my money is a precious asset. Driving to get the girl requries gas money. Not to mention paying money for myself on the date.
but the biggest thing is that time = money. while im out there tooling around town with some broad i could easily be conceptualizing another business venture.
my money is a precious asset. Driving to get the girl requries gas money. Not to mention paying money for myself on the date.
but the biggest thing is that time = money. while im out there tooling around town with some broad i could easily be conceptualizing another business venture.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Don_Joffe
Senior Don Juan
Casino like I stated in my Technique, Avoid paying for her at all costs. Today this girl calls me to come see her, i go, then wen i get their she tells me she cant go out but I can rather come lie in bed with her, HELL NO. Im not changing my plans just to satisfy her, so i LEFT before I could even go into that house and I texted her telling her the next time she wants to see me " I WANT PETROL(GAS) money or you can wish upon seeing me again" - She giggled, let her giggle, lets see how she giggles when she starts crying out to see me again.
FACT: dont waste your money on them, let them pay.
FACT: dont waste your money on them, let them pay.
i agree with the pay no money approach. i totally agree with that.
my main point is that my time ='s my money. point blank. if im out there watching Fletch with some broad I am wasting precious time in which I could be increasing my net worth.
Your technique is fine for your and other people with similar goals. All I want is 3-4 broads that I can Fukk on a consistent basis. I don't wanna live with, marry, hangout, eat dinner, or do any other thing with a broad other than fukk.
my main point is that my time ='s my money. point blank. if im out there watching Fletch with some broad I am wasting precious time in which I could be increasing my net worth.
Your technique is fine for your and other people with similar goals. All I want is 3-4 broads that I can Fukk on a consistent basis. I don't wanna live with, marry, hangout, eat dinner, or do any other thing with a broad other than fukk.
I don't know if you want to have dinner with her or not. You seem like an intelligent dude so I suppose that you don't.
the question that you need to answer is this: How do you skip the courtshp process and get down to the good stuff?
I suggest you read the Gunwitch method.
the question that you need to answer is this: How do you skip the courtshp process and get down to the good stuff?
I suggest you read the Gunwitch method.
Don_Joffe
Senior Don Juan
The thing is most girls like to be courted and like the slow proccess. I prefer doing it that way - its the way ive been taught and the way ive learnt.
Gunwitch method? You got a website for me for that...
Gunwitch method? You got a website for me for that...
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.