spider_007
Master Don Juan
ahhh, the famous "just be your self"
too bad, lot of people DON'T UNDERSTAND what it really means.
too bad, lot of people DON'T UNDERSTAND what it really means.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The Downfall Of Man...The Rise Of The Robot
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ethnomethodologist
Master Don Juan
Bravo
Your writing style is improving shezz. Your still a little creaky with conforming to the subject matter. You have a great grasp of the game
I can only keep an eye on this post for now, I believe in it greatly though. A little over the top and AWish, but there are many truths to behold.
Be listen'n
Your writing style is improving shezz. Your still a little creaky with conforming to the subject matter. You have a great grasp of the game
I can only keep an eye on this post for now, I believe in it greatly though. A little over the top and AWish, but there are many truths to behold.
Be listen'n
boulepiquante
Banned
i alway enjoy a good yarn !!!!
the thing is that there are plenty of women out there wanting to be swept off their feet !! truly
and most of them are not approached often contrary to popular belief
people in general need to to have fun in their lives ! becuz of the ir social barriers they simply can t let themselves go !! i believe you have to be the entertainer the one who stands out and the women will want you
dare to be different dare to connect to be and have fun
i do magic magic as you know )
people need to b convinced to let go oftheir rational brain and let the limbic system take over ( i e seduction by HAGEGE a fabulous french book that clarifies the above
MYSTERY out that also in 1 of his earlier posts
the thing is that there are plenty of women out there wanting to be swept off their feet !! truly
and most of them are not approached often contrary to popular belief
people in general need to to have fun in their lives ! becuz of the ir social barriers they simply can t let themselves go !! i believe you have to be the entertainer the one who stands out and the women will want you
dare to be different dare to connect to be and have fun
i do magic magic as you know )
people need to b convinced to let go oftheir rational brain and let the limbic system take over ( i e seduction by HAGEGE a fabulous french book that clarifies the above
MYSTERY out that also in 1 of his earlier posts
L777
Master Don Juan
W.T.F
uzio
Don Juan
Soild post.
Just like someone noted, the good ol "be yourself".
But it should not be
be _yourself_
but
_be_ yourself
Just like someone noted, the good ol "be yourself".
But it should not be
be _yourself_
but
_be_ yourself
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
NO NO NO
not just be yourself!
dont tell the ROBOTS that...
OMG SHEEZZZ..they might come kill, you and me both now.
HIDE!!!
not just be yourself!
dont tell the ROBOTS that...
OMG SHEEZZZ..they might come kill, you and me both now.
HIDE!!!
L777
Master Don Juan
shezz i respect you and all, but this -no offence- sounds like theoretical/philosophical babble to me.
I wasn't a 'natural' at all, so routines and stuff is how i got started, now its more of my own personality if ya know what I mean....but I think to call someone who does what he has to do to get laid a 'robot' is harsh in the extreme.
Believe it ot not, I actually ENJOY sex with different women, its not just a front or a shell...maybe ill settle down when i'm 30, or start paying attention to emotions and feelings and all that...but theres really nothing wrong with being (or trying to be) a PUA, no matter how you go about it.
boulepiquante
Banned
BECOME YOUR BEST SELF
( BY USING PROPS) YOU BECOME WHAT YOU ARE (NIETZCHE)
when i do a teaching seminar i m always very nervous and apprehensive
i then have to rely on a few tricks that give me confidence
and then i become who i am but i need those training wheels to warm up
seduction goes thru the same process i believe
( BY USING PROPS) YOU BECOME WHAT YOU ARE (NIETZCHE)
when i do a teaching seminar i m always very nervous and apprehensive
i then have to rely on a few tricks that give me confidence
and then i become who i am but i need those training wheels to warm up
seduction goes thru the same process i believe
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
With you the "minus" bit. All in all, in regard to dating women we have too MUCH stuff in our heads. Not too little.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Loved our chat about this on MSN Shezz. I suppose there are certain epiphanies every DJ must go through.
The first is undoubtedly the self-realisation of being an AFC, and actually understand why nice guys finish last. A matrix-esq "Blu pill" as it were. Like you said - to move outside of public perception.
The second is no doubt when all the routinnes and PUA skills form together to produce a competent womanizer. (For lack fo a better term.) The realisation (from personnal experience) that these things DO WORK, and that you CAN USE them in the field for success.
The last epiphany is one that few PUAs go through. It s the realisation that knowledge of pickup is like an all-encopassing virus. It takes over your life and can suck all of the humanity out of it. People become terms (HB8, AMOG, obstacle, etc), relationships become numbered stages. The third epiphany is the realisation that you're above the PU scene - that you're able to take what you want from it and leave it completely.
Some brilliant PUAs are still stuck at phase two. Tyler Durden being one obvious example. For those who have read the game - Style himself has the third epiphany courtesy of Lisa. And he's now a better man for it.
At the end of the day we must realise that the seduction advice throughout the internet isn't a "paint-by-numbers" life guide. We cannot spend countless hours reading up on every decision we make, and we cannot expect others to tell us how to live our lives. Pick up is not a way of life, it's merely a way of developing a skillset to USE in your life.
All that said...me and you are still going to sarge Shezzler!
The first is undoubtedly the self-realisation of being an AFC, and actually understand why nice guys finish last. A matrix-esq "Blu pill" as it were. Like you said - to move outside of public perception.
The second is no doubt when all the routinnes and PUA skills form together to produce a competent womanizer. (For lack fo a better term.) The realisation (from personnal experience) that these things DO WORK, and that you CAN USE them in the field for success.
The last epiphany is one that few PUAs go through. It s the realisation that knowledge of pickup is like an all-encopassing virus. It takes over your life and can suck all of the humanity out of it. People become terms (HB8, AMOG, obstacle, etc), relationships become numbered stages. The third epiphany is the realisation that you're above the PU scene - that you're able to take what you want from it and leave it completely.
Some brilliant PUAs are still stuck at phase two. Tyler Durden being one obvious example. For those who have read the game - Style himself has the third epiphany courtesy of Lisa. And he's now a better man for it.
At the end of the day we must realise that the seduction advice throughout the internet isn't a "paint-by-numbers" life guide. We cannot spend countless hours reading up on every decision we make, and we cannot expect others to tell us how to live our lives. Pick up is not a way of life, it's merely a way of developing a skillset to USE in your life.
All that said...me and you are still going to sarge Shezzler!
Really good thread!
I think the best of the best on this board are the ones who went out and tried different tactics and can admit failure. Whereas I feel a lot of guys and many PUAs never allow themselves to admit failure and move onto something new.
I think you know when you've got it right. Everything starts to fall into place and you look back and see all your mistakes, including how worthless most of this seduction crap really is.
I think the best of the best on this board are the ones who went out and tried different tactics and can admit failure. Whereas I feel a lot of guys and many PUAs never allow themselves to admit failure and move onto something new.
I think you know when you've got it right. Everything starts to fall into place and you look back and see all your mistakes, including how worthless most of this seduction crap really is.
S.S.N. 318
Don Juan
Revised!!!
Why does it not surprise me that you don't like this post and consider it "babbling"?L777 said:
It could be shortened up and condensed into something like: "Don't be the guy trying to get the girl, be the guy all the hot girls wanted anyways." Obviously, this logic doesn't work for you as you continue to define your existence based solely on the number of vag1nas you have entered. When you mature, you will want something more meaningful. Until that time, try not to understand these advanced concepts, you might injure yourself. Sleeping with a bunch of ho's when you are 22 means nothing, I did it...it was fun, its over with and nothing that happened during that time period means anything to anyone.
For the record, I don't want to be a PUA-- I don't really like it and when I see a bunch of them when I am out I kind of feel sorry for them. I am here because I want a top notch girl for a LTR, and thats it. I will not settle for anything less. Going out and finding random females to fvck isn't exactly the coolest thing for me anymore. If that is what you want to do for the rest of your life, then keep on truckin' there bro!
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.