spider_007
Master Don Juan
ahhh, the famous "just be your self"
too bad, lot of people DON'T UNDERSTAND what it really means.
too bad, lot of people DON'T UNDERSTAND what it really means.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
The Downfall Of Man...The Rise Of The Robot
- Thread starter spider_007
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ethnomethodologist
Master Don Juan
Bravo
Your writing style is improving shezz. Your still a little creaky with conforming to the subject matter. You have a great grasp of the game
I can only keep an eye on this post for now, I believe in it greatly though. A little over the top and AWish, but there are many truths to behold.
Be listen'n
Your writing style is improving shezz. Your still a little creaky with conforming to the subject matter. You have a great grasp of the game
I can only keep an eye on this post for now, I believe in it greatly though. A little over the top and AWish, but there are many truths to behold.
Be listen'n
boulepiquante
Banned
i alway enjoy a good yarn !!!!
the thing is that there are plenty of women out there wanting to be swept off their feet !! truly
and most of them are not approached often contrary to popular belief
people in general need to to have fun in their lives ! becuz of the ir social barriers they simply can t let themselves go !! i believe you have to be the entertainer the one who stands out and the women will want you
dare to be different dare to connect to be and have fun
i do magic magic as you know )
people need to b convinced to let go oftheir rational brain and let the limbic system take over ( i e seduction by HAGEGE a fabulous french book that clarifies the above
MYSTERY out that also in 1 of his earlier posts
the thing is that there are plenty of women out there wanting to be swept off their feet !! truly
and most of them are not approached often contrary to popular belief
people in general need to to have fun in their lives ! becuz of the ir social barriers they simply can t let themselves go !! i believe you have to be the entertainer the one who stands out and the women will want you
dare to be different dare to connect to be and have fun
i do magic magic as you know )
people need to b convinced to let go oftheir rational brain and let the limbic system take over ( i e seduction by HAGEGE a fabulous french book that clarifies the above
MYSTERY out that also in 1 of his earlier posts
L777
Master Don Juan
W.T.F
uzio
Don Juan
Soild post.
Just like someone noted, the good ol "be yourself".
But it should not be
be _yourself_
but
_be_ yourself
Just like someone noted, the good ol "be yourself".
But it should not be
be _yourself_
but
_be_ yourself
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
NO NO NO
not just be yourself!
dont tell the ROBOTS that...
OMG SHEEZZZ..they might come kill, you and me both now.
HIDE!!!
not just be yourself!
dont tell the ROBOTS that...
OMG SHEEZZZ..they might come kill, you and me both now.
HIDE!!!
L777
Master Don Juan
shezz i respect you and all, but this -no offence- sounds like theoretical/philosophical babble to me.
I wasn't a 'natural' at all, so routines and stuff is how i got started, now its more of my own personality if ya know what I mean....but I think to call someone who does what he has to do to get laid a 'robot' is harsh in the extreme.
Believe it ot not, I actually ENJOY sex with different women, its not just a front or a shell...maybe ill settle down when i'm 30, or start paying attention to emotions and feelings and all that...but theres really nothing wrong with being (or trying to be) a PUA, no matter how you go about it.
boulepiquante
Banned
BECOME YOUR BEST SELF
( BY USING PROPS) YOU BECOME WHAT YOU ARE (NIETZCHE)
when i do a teaching seminar i m always very nervous and apprehensive
i then have to rely on a few tricks that give me confidence
and then i become who i am but i need those training wheels to warm up
seduction goes thru the same process i believe
( BY USING PROPS) YOU BECOME WHAT YOU ARE (NIETZCHE)
when i do a teaching seminar i m always very nervous and apprehensive
i then have to rely on a few tricks that give me confidence
and then i become who i am but i need those training wheels to warm up
seduction goes thru the same process i believe
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
With you the "minus" bit. All in all, in regard to dating women we have too MUCH stuff in our heads. Not too little.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Loved our chat about this on MSN Shezz. I suppose there are certain epiphanies every DJ must go through.
The first is undoubtedly the self-realisation of being an AFC, and actually understand why nice guys finish last. A matrix-esq "Blu pill" as it were. Like you said - to move outside of public perception.
The second is no doubt when all the routinnes and PUA skills form together to produce a competent womanizer. (For lack fo a better term.) The realisation (from personnal experience) that these things DO WORK, and that you CAN USE them in the field for success.
The last epiphany is one that few PUAs go through. It s the realisation that knowledge of pickup is like an all-encopassing virus. It takes over your life and can suck all of the humanity out of it. People become terms (HB8, AMOG, obstacle, etc), relationships become numbered stages. The third epiphany is the realisation that you're above the PU scene - that you're able to take what you want from it and leave it completely.
Some brilliant PUAs are still stuck at phase two. Tyler Durden being one obvious example. For those who have read the game - Style himself has the third epiphany courtesy of Lisa. And he's now a better man for it.
At the end of the day we must realise that the seduction advice throughout the internet isn't a "paint-by-numbers" life guide. We cannot spend countless hours reading up on every decision we make, and we cannot expect others to tell us how to live our lives. Pick up is not a way of life, it's merely a way of developing a skillset to USE in your life.
All that said...me and you are still going to sarge Shezzler!
The first is undoubtedly the self-realisation of being an AFC, and actually understand why nice guys finish last. A matrix-esq "Blu pill" as it were. Like you said - to move outside of public perception.
The second is no doubt when all the routinnes and PUA skills form together to produce a competent womanizer. (For lack fo a better term.) The realisation (from personnal experience) that these things DO WORK, and that you CAN USE them in the field for success.
The last epiphany is one that few PUAs go through. It s the realisation that knowledge of pickup is like an all-encopassing virus. It takes over your life and can suck all of the humanity out of it. People become terms (HB8, AMOG, obstacle, etc), relationships become numbered stages. The third epiphany is the realisation that you're above the PU scene - that you're able to take what you want from it and leave it completely.
Some brilliant PUAs are still stuck at phase two. Tyler Durden being one obvious example. For those who have read the game - Style himself has the third epiphany courtesy of Lisa. And he's now a better man for it.
At the end of the day we must realise that the seduction advice throughout the internet isn't a "paint-by-numbers" life guide. We cannot spend countless hours reading up on every decision we make, and we cannot expect others to tell us how to live our lives. Pick up is not a way of life, it's merely a way of developing a skillset to USE in your life.
All that said...me and you are still going to sarge Shezzler!
Really good thread!
I think the best of the best on this board are the ones who went out and tried different tactics and can admit failure. Whereas I feel a lot of guys and many PUAs never allow themselves to admit failure and move onto something new.
I think you know when you've got it right. Everything starts to fall into place and you look back and see all your mistakes, including how worthless most of this seduction crap really is.
I think the best of the best on this board are the ones who went out and tried different tactics and can admit failure. Whereas I feel a lot of guys and many PUAs never allow themselves to admit failure and move onto something new.
I think you know when you've got it right. Everything starts to fall into place and you look back and see all your mistakes, including how worthless most of this seduction crap really is.
S.S.N. 318
Don Juan
Revised!!!
Why does it not surprise me that you don't like this post and consider it "babbling"?L777 said:
It could be shortened up and condensed into something like: "Don't be the guy trying to get the girl, be the guy all the hot girls wanted anyways." Obviously, this logic doesn't work for you as you continue to define your existence based solely on the number of vag1nas you have entered. When you mature, you will want something more meaningful. Until that time, try not to understand these advanced concepts, you might injure yourself. Sleeping with a bunch of ho's when you are 22 means nothing, I did it...it was fun, its over with and nothing that happened during that time period means anything to anyone.
For the record, I don't want to be a PUA-- I don't really like it and when I see a bunch of them when I am out I kind of feel sorry for them. I am here because I want a top notch girl for a LTR, and thats it. I will not settle for anything less. Going out and finding random females to fvck isn't exactly the coolest thing for me anymore. If that is what you want to do for the rest of your life, then keep on truckin' there bro!
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.