"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by Sirducer
No offence guys but from what Ive seen is an mASF based PUA, craps all over a DJ... :)
I agree.

But mASF based PUAs are also notorious for not being able to keep a girl

PUA focuses on outer game, leaving the guy to be very surface oriented and uninteresting in the long term

DJ focuses on inner game, making the guy an interesting and solid person, but without the outer game girls never even get a chance to see this

Combine the two - inner game with outer game - and you have an unstoppable force!


BrotherAP :D
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
I agree.

But mASF based PUAs are also notorious for not being able to keep a girl

PUA focuses on outer game, leaving the guy to be very surface oriented and uninteresting in the long term

DJ focuses on inner game, making the guy an interesting and solid person, but without the outer game girls never even get a chance to see this

Combine the two - inner game with outer game - and you have an unstoppable force!


BrotherAP :D
I dont know what you mean by "DJ focuses on inner game..." when a lot of posts on this forum are very newbish and naive... in a sense that these guys are still searching for that "special pill."

Furthermore DJs/PUAs that are too focused on an outer game "routine performing clowns" are really fake and will not go far at all, you are right.

Actually we emphasize the whole aspect of fixing your inner game first and outer game will follow. Thats the key... its like having a PUA state and everything you say comes of as PUA... not like remembering some PUA catch phrase and trying desperately to make you get some puss :)

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i dont think you can be a true DJ without having at least the basic PUA skills.

its annoying how on here PUA and MASF are dirty words, when in reality this site is more like a "natural game extension" to the PUA side of things.

the best PUAs all have incredible inner game. The ****ty "social robot" PUAs are the ones that just recite the routines and have no inner game at all.
 

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Originally posted by Egoist

the best PUAs all have incredible inner game. The ****ty "social robot" PUAs are the ones that just recite the routines and have no inner game at all.

Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?







PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?


PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
mystery is more of a crazy artist type..

you know, so talented that he is bound to be crazy?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Maybe "advanced techniques" isn't the right term. I'd like to see more discussion about what to do once you've already gotten a girl's attention. I want to see posts about what kills attraction. Signs that a girl is leading you on, but not that into you really. I want to know what approaches fail, or what ways to approach simply kill your game. I want to first kill my bad habits, so that I can develop my own good ones. These are all things we should discuss.
Ok, that sounds worth discussing, hehe.

Examples always help. So does courage, I'm working on that one... it sounds like you're doing fine in that department
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?







PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
Oh please... Mystery is just a bit of a nut and a very self obsessed person who shows a lot of emotion... thats the way HE is personally.
Please dont carpet bomb every PUA just cos Mystery had a mental break down... furthermore guys like Mystery made such sites like this one exist.

As for DJs having strong inner game... seriously how do you explain all the gay threads that many guys (even vets) post? Flame away but if on mASF a guy asks some retarded question like "What routine/****y funny line should I use on this particular girl then he will be flamed by formhandle first and then by other, then his topic will be shut down.

Furthermore, DJ = high school kids. mASF = mature men!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=824250#post824250


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Originally posted by Sirducer

Furthermore, DJ = high school kids. mASF = mature men!

Or

DJ = strong inner game (prizing, mysterious, adventurous, confidence, etc.)

AFC = "high school kids"

PUA = strong outer game (routines, openers, cold reads, compitence, etc.)
 

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I could'nt have said it better myself, its the magic brew when it comes together, I think too many guys worry about the out come, and dont progress
natually, or escalate, to much information overload. H.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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