"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Sirducer
No offence guys but from what Ive seen is an mASF based PUA, craps all over a DJ... :)
I agree.

But mASF based PUAs are also notorious for not being able to keep a girl

PUA focuses on outer game, leaving the guy to be very surface oriented and uninteresting in the long term

DJ focuses on inner game, making the guy an interesting and solid person, but without the outer game girls never even get a chance to see this

Combine the two - inner game with outer game - and you have an unstoppable force!


BrotherAP :D
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
I agree.

But mASF based PUAs are also notorious for not being able to keep a girl

PUA focuses on outer game, leaving the guy to be very surface oriented and uninteresting in the long term

DJ focuses on inner game, making the guy an interesting and solid person, but without the outer game girls never even get a chance to see this

Combine the two - inner game with outer game - and you have an unstoppable force!


BrotherAP :D
I dont know what you mean by "DJ focuses on inner game..." when a lot of posts on this forum are very newbish and naive... in a sense that these guys are still searching for that "special pill."

Furthermore DJs/PUAs that are too focused on an outer game "routine performing clowns" are really fake and will not go far at all, you are right.

Actually we emphasize the whole aspect of fixing your inner game first and outer game will follow. Thats the key... its like having a PUA state and everything you say comes of as PUA... not like remembering some PUA catch phrase and trying desperately to make you get some puss :)

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i dont think you can be a true DJ without having at least the basic PUA skills.

its annoying how on here PUA and MASF are dirty words, when in reality this site is more like a "natural game extension" to the PUA side of things.

the best PUAs all have incredible inner game. The ****ty "social robot" PUAs are the ones that just recite the routines and have no inner game at all.
 

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Originally posted by Egoist

the best PUAs all have incredible inner game. The ****ty "social robot" PUAs are the ones that just recite the routines and have no inner game at all.

Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?







PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?


PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
mystery is more of a crazy artist type..

you know, so talented that he is bound to be crazy?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Maybe "advanced techniques" isn't the right term. I'd like to see more discussion about what to do once you've already gotten a girl's attention. I want to see posts about what kills attraction. Signs that a girl is leading you on, but not that into you really. I want to know what approaches fail, or what ways to approach simply kill your game. I want to first kill my bad habits, so that I can develop my own good ones. These are all things we should discuss.
Ok, that sounds worth discussing, hehe.

Examples always help. So does courage, I'm working on that one... it sounds like you're doing fine in that department
 

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Originally posted by bluelemond
Are you fvckin crazy! Look at Mystery. He breaks down mentally every so often. How is that strong inner game?







PUA = Strong outer game

DJ = Strong inner game
Oh please... Mystery is just a bit of a nut and a very self obsessed person who shows a lot of emotion... thats the way HE is personally.
Please dont carpet bomb every PUA just cos Mystery had a mental break down... furthermore guys like Mystery made such sites like this one exist.

As for DJs having strong inner game... seriously how do you explain all the gay threads that many guys (even vets) post? Flame away but if on mASF a guy asks some retarded question like "What routine/****y funny line should I use on this particular girl then he will be flamed by formhandle first and then by other, then his topic will be shut down.

Furthermore, DJ = high school kids. mASF = mature men!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=824250#post824250


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Originally posted by Sirducer

Furthermore, DJ = high school kids. mASF = mature men!

Or

DJ = strong inner game (prizing, mysterious, adventurous, confidence, etc.)

AFC = "high school kids"

PUA = strong outer game (routines, openers, cold reads, compitence, etc.)
 

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I could'nt have said it better myself, its the magic brew when it comes together, I think too many guys worry about the out come, and dont progress
natually, or escalate, to much information overload. H.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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